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| Author: | NewbieCasanova [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
So yesterday I went to a rave with couple of friends to have fun and attempting to hook up with girls at the same time. The rave started around 8:30pm and ended around 1:30am. I went around, asking girls to (dry hump)"dance" but for some reason, all of them either said "no thanks" or "i have a boyfriend". I made sure that my emotional state was those of the girls dancing. For the first 1-2 hours i was just in there dancing and amping up my own emotional state so that when i approach a girl, it wouldn't look/feel awkward. Here's how i approached. When i have my eye on a girl, i would go near them and dance, so that I could at least catch their attention, to let them know that im around. When that happens, i go up to them, tap them and ask "Wanna dance?". 100% of the time, they said "No thanks" or "I have a boyfriend. Why did this happen? Was it the way i approached them or because I didn't look like a 6'2 white boy with a masculine build |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
It's because you are asking her to dance in a loud night club. Also, same logic as to if you were a approach a girl with 'Do you have a boyfriend?' - their autopilot response would usually be 'Yes' just to get away from you and the pressure. It can work sometimes if they are into you but there are much smoother ways. To dance with a girl, I make some eye contact, gauge her reaction and then just dance with her. It's a loud place, save the verbal game for quiet places, |
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| Author: | NewbieCasanova [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Quote: It's because you are asking her to dance in a loud night club.
So just the attempt of asking a girl to "dance" is a big no in a chaotic environment?Also, same logic as to if you were a approach a girl with 'Do you have a boyfriend?' - their autopilot response would usually be 'Yes' just to get away from you and the pressure. It can work sometimes if they are into you but there are much smoother ways. To dance with a girl, I make some eye contact, gauge her reaction and then just dance with her. It's a loud place, save the verbal game for quit places, I've been to this huge rave once with 1000 people and i went around asking girls to dance. 4/10 of them agreed. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Quote: Quote: It's because you are asking her to dance in a loud night club.
So just the attempt of asking a girl to "dance" is a big no in a chaotic environment?Also, same logic as to if you were a approach a girl with 'Do you have a boyfriend?' - their autopilot response would usually be 'Yes' just to get away from you and the pressure. It can work sometimes if they are into you but there are much smoother ways. To dance with a girl, I make some eye contact, gauge her reaction and then just dance with her. It's a loud place, save the verbal game for quit places, I've been to this huge rave once with 1000 people and i went around asking girls to dance. 4/10 of them agreed. Then why are you asking for advice? I did mention it will work if they are into you only. I am suggesting a much smoother way, a way to make your ratio perhaps a 9/10 - so perhaps try it before you challenge my post Raves are fucked up places for seduction anyway. |
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| Author: | NewbieCasanova [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Quote: Quote: Quote: It's because you are asking her to dance in a loud night club.
So just the attempt of asking a girl to "dance" is a big no in a chaotic environment?Also, same logic as to if you were a approach a girl with 'Do you have a boyfriend?' - their autopilot response would usually be 'Yes' just to get away from you and the pressure. It can work sometimes if they are into you but there are much smoother ways. To dance with a girl, I make some eye contact, gauge her reaction and then just dance with her. It's a loud place, save the verbal game for quit places, I've been to this huge rave once with 1000 people and i went around asking girls to dance. 4/10 of them agreed. Then why are you asking for advice? I did mention it will work if they are into you only. I am suggesting a much smoother way, a way to make your ratio perhaps a 9/10 - so perhaps try it before you challenge my post Raves are fucked up places for seduction anyway. |
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| Author: | Finished [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Asking them if they want to dance is pretty weak if you ask me. You don't need to verbally ask for permission. Unless she knows you or has heard of you and finds you attractive already, of course you're going to get this reaction. To gauge interest on the dancefloor just make sure you are comfortable in your own skin. Take a look at what all the other guys are doing, you see those two chodes dancing face to face with each other looking like they're waiting for something to happen? Don't do that. You see the dudes annoying girls and trying the grind on them when they just want to do their thing? Don't do that either. Too high energy is actually unattractive because it shows that you're a guy who is not in control of himself so just chill. If you do this right and you look good girls will start to notice you. Just flirt lightly with them. Strong sexual energy and confidence is important here. Once you're getting interest of a few girls, pick a girl and let her dance on you as you lightly touch her hips and carry on flirting with her. You can then proceed to ramp up the sexual energy by holding her more firmly and taking control of her body. You can also take her by the hand and move her to a better area if you need too. When your feeling like it you can then start to escalate and make it more playful. What to do next is really a matter of calibration to the scenario... anything can happen. Keep in mind this is only one technique of many and your job is to eventually get her off the dancefloor so you can continue the pick up and seduction. You also have the rest of the club. I only go onto the dance floor if I really need too. |
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| Author: | dtrak [ Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
You should strive to have the core confidence to approach a woman anytime wether she's dancing, sleeping, reading, or taking a shower. How you open does not matter if you have the confidence to back it up. With a little more understanding of social dynamics and women you can develop this confidence. A little trial and error perhaps, but dont stop approaching. Eventually you will encounter a scenario in which the girl will be interested in dancing with you, but you need to approach without any self doubt to maximize your odds. Best way to destroy self doubt is to do is over and over, and everytime you get rejected i want you to ask yourself this question Would you have thought your approach was cool and confident if you were the girl? If the answer is yes, do more of it, your on the right track. If the answer is no, re-evaluate your methods. |
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| Author: | NewbieCasanova [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Quote: You should strive to have the core confidence to approach a woman anytime wether she's dancing, sleeping, reading, or taking a shower.
See, now that is what i'm getting confused on. Confident approach; what do you guys actually mean when you say, approach confidently or act confidently?How you open does not matter if you have the confidence to back it up. With a little more understanding of social dynamics and women you can develop this confidence. A little trial and error perhaps, but dont stop approaching. Eventually you will encounter a scenario in which the girl will be interested in dancing with you, but you need to approach without any self doubt to maximize your odds. Best way to destroy self doubt is to do is over and over, and everytime you get rejected i want you to ask yourself this question Would you have thought your approach was cool and confident if you were the girl? If the answer is yes, do more of it, your on the right track. If the answer is no, re-evaluate your methods. Do you mean, acting without any hesitation or doubt in yourself? And how does one approach confidently? |
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| Author: | R.C [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
You don't act confident, you aim towards becoming confident. What do you mean how you approach? Dragula already explained. Eye contact, smile, approach, dance. Don't ask. Never ask. |
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| Author: | White Walker [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Asking to dance at nightclubs/raves |
Seriously? Who even asks someone to dance nowadays, especially in a club/rave. Having a high energy approach definitely helps. I personally like to make a fool of myself on the dancefloor, not excessively, but just enough to catch a few glances and a smile or two. If you're that boring guy who is too embarrassed to dance and would rather just bob up and down you won't stand a chance. While this might be immature, I also find that mocking girls when they dance is an easy opener. You imitate their dancing, make eye contact, they then smile and get embarrassed. They usually say something along the lines of 'stop it! I don't dance like that'. You can then keep negging their dancing and even try teach them how to dance which is just an excuse to get more intimate. |
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