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| Author: | RockstarPUA [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Untested Opener - Opinions? |
I'm going out tomorrow night, and I'm thinking of doing some experimenting. I've always done indirect game and i'm a little bored of it, so wanna start a move into direct. Anyway, I had an idea last night lying in bed for a new opener, which is kinda direct but not unambiguously direct. I would like some of your opinions on how to deliver it though. Anyway, this is essentially it: *walk up to a group of girls (obviously can work on a single)* Me: "Hi!. Okay now you guys say something." *one of the girls literally say anything* Me: "wow that was awful. Someone else?" The theory behind this is that, I'm basically qualifying them from the off. If theyre attracted then they'l try to say something valuable or if theyre dismissive, it has a neg following it and i can then move forward into that game My thoughts on delivery are either (though i will try all): 1. Deadpan/low energy - this gives it more of a comedic effect 2. High energy, smiling 3. High energy first, then deadpan delivery on second part What do we think? p.s. I know some of you will want to reply with 'forget about lines', 'never neg', 'youre thinking too much',etc.. I've heard all of that. This is just a playful thought on trying different things and experimenting. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Untested Opener - Opinions? |
I think it's horrendous. I think you're breaking rapport too fast, However, anything works when you're in good mood and giving out good vibes and looking sexy. Cheesy Chat up lines work when you're in a good mood. Cheesy chat up lines don't work when you're in "let's try this line out and see if it works" mode. Me and my friends the other week were pointing at girls and mimicking the throat slit with our finger motion but we gave out good vibes and has a big smile on our face. Now, to a person who has just stepped in the venue, not in sync, isn't socially liberated yet...Could be different outcome. |
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| Author: | RockstarPUA [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Untested Opener - Opinions? |
Okay, so I tested this last night and I have to say quite successful. It opened 4 out of 6 sets, so maybe about as reliable as any other "scripted" opener. The first set it didnt open which i think was the 2nd set I approached, i think it was a 5set of girls, it contained an absolute brickwall of an alpha female. She was having none of it. I could tell a couple of the group were open to being approached and didnt mind my presence but the rest i think were just following the leader. I tried all my tactics to break down bitch shield but to no avail, I gracefully retreated. The second set it didnt work on was a 3 set, and they were just giving me nothing. They just really couldnt think on their feet and interact like that. They just looked confused, not dismissive or rude, but it just wasnt gonna go anywhere. As to the 4 sets it did open, it actually flowed quite easily. They'd give a couple of confused responses, then I'd say something interesting or a joke or whatever, then they started to understand the frame I was presenting and fell into it and gave some banter and managed to flow into a general conversation. Got a kiss close and a number from one set, a couple of numbers/facebook adds from some others. I found smaller sets more receptive for this, maybe thats a theme in general - smaller sets welcome an addition to their group more? Not sure. Didnt get an opportunity to try a single though. Well, i did but I didnt take it, I had a rush of AA after a failed approach. Stupid. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Untested Opener - Opinions? |
Lol did you notice that after a few rejections, your openers seemed 'to work' ? That is my point with it all with my previous post. Once you gather social momentum, opening get's easier and the girls are more gradually receptive You're too obsessed with the opener content and you are totally disregarding what really works and doesn't. Don't you see it? If you was to meet the same girls in reverse order, how do you know the outcome wouldn't of been the same? As in the bitchy girls were the most friendly this time around..? I will say it again....Any opener works when you're in the groove. Even the most fucked up ones. |
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