PUA Forum :: first date, attraction phase is a problem

sup boy's,

I can build good comfort but very bad sexual attraction and escalate. can't find any good examples of how to sexually escalate ... or to get the conversation so that they all think they are with me in bed.
so usually I get always a kiss-close but almost never that I can lead it to the first date sex. usually they work on the last thing against.
and I keep continue but is not the solution.
last week a woman who dated 6 years older like me and knew very well how they had to screen me ... had already kissed her the week before but now I hit not proceed if the kiss. and I got the conversation really not intimate and to a higher level ... the conversation ran not good either. I do not usually know more good what right things to say. so maybe someone has some good examples.

[quote="neo87"
Tbh, screw sexual escalation and sexual conversations.

Yeah. The most important thing imo is to get the girl to a location you can have sex. Ie your place. You can turn her on during dinner with some lines, you can "kino escalate" at the bar... Both mean nothing unless you get her to a location that you can sleep with her. You get her home and you can literally just make out with her and progress that to sex. Kiss her right, touch her right and hook up. The time that you're spending have a sexual conversation at the bar to turn her on just takes away from the time you could actually be sleeping with her.

yes go to my home was not because that city was an hour from my home .. but it was with the car and was about 10min from her home. but she was really sensitive because still trying to escalate in the car but could not. only what kissed etc ..
and for drinks really works well for me .. not exactly always runs in a boring conversation .. had here used to be more affected. then all my dates far too gentlemanly. but this issue is exactly come back to it.
I really have trouble with to tease etc ...
because when we sat down on a bench she even went down a meter from me. .while the week before she even sat on my lap.
I had maybe in the car not so hard be allowed to stay to continue..

but my question was actually how do you get more a small talk conversation with more fun and teasing ... has anyone an article where good examples in? as you say now always to take her to your home. But how can you get than that also your sex at her home have? I also suffer to this in my textgame. and most do just a drink but I really hate this. but girls like this always the sweetest.
because it is approachable for their.

Author:	jappe007 [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:27 pm ]
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sup boy's, I can build good comfort but very bad sexual attraction and escalate. can't find any good examples of how to sexually escalate ... or to get the conversation so that they all think they are with me in bed. so usually I get always a kiss-close but almost never that I can lead it to the first date sex. usually they work on the last thing against. and I keep continue but is not the solution. last week a woman who dated 6 years older like me and knew very well how they had to screen me ... had already kissed her the week before but now I hit not proceed if the kiss. and I got the conversation really not intimate and to a higher level ... the conversation ran not good either. I do not usually know more good what right things to say. so maybe someone has some good examples.

Author:	neo87 [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:44 pm ]
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Quote: sup boy's, I can build good comfort but very bad sexual attraction and escalate. can't find any good examples of how to sexually escalate ... or to get the conversation so that they all think they are with me in bed. so usually I get always a kiss-close but almost never that I can lead it to the first date sex. usually they work on the last thing against. and I keep continue but is not the solution. last week a woman who dated 6 years older like me and knew very well how they had to screen me ... had already kissed her the week before but now I hit not proceed if the kiss. and I got the conversation really not intimate and to a higher level ... the conversation ran not good either. I do not usually know more good what right things to say. so maybe someone has some good examples. Tbh, screw sexual escalation and sexual conversations. Most of that stuff is just unnecessary. Go on a date and set it up in such a way that you end up at your place. Lead the date the entire way. Too many guys let the girl set up the logistics then wonder why the logistics are shitty.

Author:	R.C [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:15 pm ]
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[quote="neo87" Tbh, screw sexual escalation and sexual conversations.[/quote] Wait, what?

Author:	neo87 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:53 pm ]
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Quote: [quote="neo87" Tbh, screw sexual escalation and sexual conversations. Wait, what?[/quote] Yeah. The most important thing imo is to get the girl to a location you can have sex. Ie your place. You can turn her on during dinner with some lines, you can "kino escalate" at the bar... Both mean nothing unless you get her to a location that you can sleep with her. You get her home and you can literally just make out with her and progress that to sex. Kiss her right, touch her right and hook up. The time that you're spending have a sexual conversation at the bar to turn her on just takes away from the time you could actually be sleeping with her.

Author:	jappe007 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:52 pm ]
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yes go to my home was not because that city was an hour from my home .. but it was with the car and was about 10min from her home. but she was really sensitive because still trying to escalate in the car but could not. only what kissed etc .. and for drinks really works well for me .. not exactly always runs in a boring conversation .. had here used to be more affected. then all my dates far too gentlemanly. but this issue is exactly come back to it. I really have trouble with to tease etc ... because when we sat down on a bench she even went down a meter from me. .while the week before she even sat on my lap. I had maybe in the car not so hard be allowed to stay to continue..

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Author:	Dragula [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:14 pm ]
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Quote: Yeah. The most important thing imo is to get the girl to a location you can have sex. Ie your place. You can turn her on during dinner with some lines, you can "kino escalate" at the bar... Both mean nothing unless you get her to a location that you can sleep with her. You get her home and you can literally just make out with her and progress that to sex. Kiss her right, touch her right and hook up. The time that you're spending have a sexual conversation at the bar to turn her on just takes away from the time you could actually be sleeping with her. That can work, but from my experience, at least setting up a sexual frame you go to your place can be beneficial. Reason being, when you DO get her to your place it is ON. your way, you will get more LMR if you get girls to your place indirectly and beating around the bush. Lot's of ways to skin a cat though but that seems more efficient for me and my friends.

Author:	neo87 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:29 pm ]
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Quote: yes go to my home was not because that city was an hour from my home .. but it was with the car and was about 10min from her home. but she was really sensitive because still trying to escalate in the car but could not. only what kissed etc .. and for drinks really works well for me .. not exactly always runs in a boring conversation .. had here used to be more affected. then all my dates far too gentlemanly. but this issue is exactly come back to it. I really have trouble with to tease etc ... because when we sat down on a bench she even went down a meter from me. .while the week before she even sat on my lap. I had maybe in the car not so hard be allowed to stay to continue.. I take it English isn't your first language? But anyways here's the thing. If you want to fuck a girl just fuck her. By that I mean if she lives an hr away from you and is not willing to come to your city... Next. Why waste your time in a bad logistical situation to HOPE something works out. To dragula, I find the opposite. If I escalate on the date and she gets turned on, unless she is completely down she isn't coming back to my place and would rather stretch it out. However if I don't securely escalate on the date then she comes back and I can't remember the last time I got lmr. I guess that's because I play it more like I wasn't even planning on sleeping with you but we just got swept up in it. If I act like I got swept up in it, she acts the same. So I never deal with lmr knock on wood.

Author:	jappe007 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:33 pm ]
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but my question was actually how do you get more a small talk conversation with more fun and teasing ... has anyone an article where good examples in? as you say now always to take her to your home. But how can you get than that also your sex at her home have? I also suffer to this in my textgame. and most do just a drink but I really hate this. but girls like this always the sweetest. because it is approachable for their.

Author:	neo87 [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:44 am ]
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Quote: but my question was actually how do you get more a small talk conversation with more fun and teasing ... has anyone an article where good examples in? as you say now always to take her to your home. But how can you get than that also your sex at her home have? I also suffer to this in my textgame. and most do just a drink but I really hate this. but girls like this always the sweetest. because it is approachable for their. ?

Author:	R.C [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:10 am ]
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Quote: but my question was actually how do you get more a small talk conversation with more fun and teasing ... has anyone an article where good examples in? as you say now always to take her to your home. But how can you get than that also your sex at her home have? I also suffer to this in my textgame. and most do just a drink but I really hate this. but girls like this always the sweetest. because it is approachable for their. Man, what the fuck? I read this 4 times and it's increasingly hilarious. Are you using google translate for this shit?

Author:	jappe007 [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:37 pm ]
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yes.. i can good understand english but not good writing..

Author:	Black Phantom [ Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:52 pm ]
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One of the things you could do is read some romance novels, like 50 shades of grey, pride and prejustice etc. The reason for that is so you understand HOW women think about sexuality, and what turns them ON. As for which techniques you can use, I recommend you learn PUSH-PULL intimately. You can pm for some power point slides on push-pull that I've created. You can also try googling push-pull and you'll get a tone of info.

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