Looks don't mean shit: when it comes to women it's all about what's on the inside.

First of all, that's a guy in a fat suit making a video to put on YouTube and profit from it.

He already has all the confidence he needs cause he's NOT REALLY UGLY OR FAT.

Looks matter. You all have to deal with this fact.

I don't need to'deal' with it. Like I said, I consider myself good looking: if it all boiled down to just looks I'd be sorted. I wish it WAS all about looks: it's not.

First of all, that's a guy in a fat suit making a video to put on YouTube and profit from it. He already has all the confidence he needs cause he's NOT REALLY UGLY OR FAT.

I have kind of a different perspective on this.

I think it's a trap being caught between the paradigms of thinking looks matter or they don't. I think truthfully the DO, that seems kind of obvious. However, it's not the be and all end all of pick up.

I think that some girls will sleep with you if you are their exact ideal type. They like a guy with long legs, brown hair, brown eyes and a good jaw. Or if you are a blonde surfer guy, or a hipster guy, or business guy. You get the idea. If you fit into the 'Brand' of what she wants then will have enough attraction to sleep with you. But it doesn't mean you won't fuck it up, or that you don't need a grounded personality, or that you don't have to lead. It's like.. having a headstart on a marathon. Helpful? Of course. But it's not enough to win you the race to the end.

Remember, it's NOT the physical perception of you that makes a girl want to sleep with you or not. It's how you make her feel. She feels a certain way around a guy that's her type which makes her attracted. And unless you are ugly or unhygienic, the worst you can be is at a neutral standing with most girls.

So if her emotional level is at a 7 when she's in your presence by your looks alone, and 10 is for her to abandon logic and go sleep with you, you have gotta game her. Even if she thinks you are really cute or handsome. It's just not emotionally compelling enough for her to bypass the logical barriers towards sex.

So in this sense, unless you are some how her niche fetish, you will need to game the girls you want no matter what you look like. On a deeper level, it has nothing to do with looks at all, but her emotions which she'll rationalize later.

This whole looks thing is so stupid and people are way to sensitive about it. We are men, come on. Isn't this exactly what girls complain and worry about? Do you think a man that's in his prime would worry about petty shit like this? It's so pathetic.

Here's my opinion as a guy who is trying to get involved in the community who is starting out with inner game issues because of his lack of belief in his looks.

I personally think looks do and don't matter. They will matter to some girls and they won't to others. The kind of girl you want to have a relationship, it won't matter as much, but to the hot girls that you just wanna bang, looks will probably matter a whole lot more.

Confidence is key, every girl in the world will tell you that, a good looking guy who can't speak, look a girl in the eye or touch her, is probably going to come off as weird, put the girl in an uneasy state and that is that.

I just don't think that good looking guys on this forum should denounce or put down another forum member who doesn't feel that they are attractive for feeling this way. Feeling like you are ugly is one of the worst feelings you can have and if you have never experienced that, you're lucky. I've got issues from adolescence because I had an overbite and red lips. I was teased mercilessly for being a 'beaver' or for putting on 'my mom's lipstick'. I don't have an overbite anymore but I do have a somewhat crooked smile. My lips are red, I don't give a shit. But, the first girl I ever liked said she would never date me because I was a 'skeleton' and I always had to deal with snide comments like "Look at him when he runs, he's so lanky" etc. etc. It was brutal listening to girls talk about all the guys in my class they thought were cute and my name NEVER came up.

It can fuck a guy up. I'm trying my best to believe that looks don't matter as much. We are only dealt the hand we have. All we can do as either average looking guys or below average looking guys is get the best hair-cut for our facial shape, hit the gym to get the best muscle definition we can, take care of our diets, our skin, stay properly groomed, learn how to speak and compose your body language confidently then approach women.

But you are right that women have a deeper sense of dread when it comes to looks. A girl who knows she's hot an HB9 or HB10, probably isn't going to give a fat ugly guy her number, no matter how good his game is.. she's got male attention from a bunch of different sources. But, you can probably get a HB6-8 if you have quality game because chances are, she's insecure.

Having graduated with an honors in Psychology (okay, I lied, I was accepted and didn't go through with honors) and speaking with many people. We are all fucked up on the inside. We are all insecure about something. A beautiful friend of mine who is a girl is worried she will never find love because of her thick thighs and 'basic brown eyes'.

Please don't take anything I say personally.

This is showing your inexperience. There is zero difference between a girls thinking in a one night stand or a relationship. It's all based on the same emotional value.
Yes. This is why the friend zone exists.
You need to let go of this victim mentality homie. No one gives a fuck. Everyone has had a bad childhood, has been teased or abused by people. It's the universal story of growing up. You think you're important and your little victim mindest is unique. It's not. Get over yourself.

There are people dying of infectious diseases and hunger, thousands of children trafficked every day to work in brothels and sold as sex slaves.. This unrelated but you don't have any fucking problems compared to how bad it could be.

The first thing I wish people were taught to do when they learn about pickup is to shut the fuck up and get on with it. No one gives a shit. No one cares if you succeed or fail, you have to be selfish and do this for yourself.

I'm not attacking you. I used to be the same. I had intense shit happen to me growing up too. I know people who have been raped, or had been emotionally abused as kids, or even worse stuff, and they are fucking killing it.. because they don't post pathetic shit like this online. They just get over it gradually day by day..

Let it go dude.
Your problem is your attitude not what you look like. I can't even stand reading this shit. How is a hot girl going to perceive it?

Looks DO matter. There you go. Now what? Does that belief really help you?

If you actually did all of that stuff you are talking about you'd be in the top 10% of guys who are attractive anyway. This is something you aren't seeing because you're obsessed with your perceived flaws.
If the ugly fat guy obviously doesn't respect himself then very few women at all will want something to do with him. That's obvious. It has nothing to do if he's fat or ugly, but if he doesn't shower, brush his teeth or take care of himself it would be like fucking a diseased animal.

Again, these are just assumptions you are making. Go out.

I agree.

This whole post reads like someone who has never gone out and only read material online.

The real world works very differently than what you are assuming.