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Author:  firecoke [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Looking for an over the phone wingman

If you are looking for someone to talk to figure out what you did wrong, we might be a good fit. Looking for a wingman with who I can bounce ideas and break down sets, over the phone.

I been trying to find a local wingman, but it's been somewhat challenging. So I thought I widen the search.

Author:  FeaganMox [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for an over the phone wingman

Hmm i dont really think that would work. The wingman would have to be there to actually view what you're doing and assess it. Sometimes when i approach girls ill think i did everything right but someone will point out something i didnt do.

Like growing up i didnt really talk much and when i did i was very loud so i was always being told to be quiet. I guess it sunk in because now when i think im being loud enough to be heard people will ask me why i talk so low. I also noticed i smiled a lot and sucked a tmaking eye contact. I did that because i have an intimidating face and all my coaches thought i had an attitude with them.

Anyway the person would have to be there to see because it could be something really subtle that youre used to that even you dont notice youre doing.

Author:  firecoke [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for an over the phone wingman

Yes, it's true that a live wingman person is more helpful. I suppose I've reached a stage where I've seen close to 100 sets and I need to consolidate all those in my head. And the best method I've found for doing this is by discussing it with others and explaining it to others. That's the purpose of this.

Author:  chi31fan35 [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for an over the phone wingman

If it's an over the phone wingman Sasha daygame might be able to help. I haven't taken his or one of his dating coaches SPAM sessions, but they're there for guys who do daygame.

I would say get a friend, one male, one female, who you interact with a lot and get their opinion. Most of the guys on here would say girls give terrible advice, but what I noticed is they will give humor you with the whole "be yourself" and "you are such a sweet, loving, etc. guy, any girl would want to have you," but the second you get into self reflection and talk about that, they can either confirm you have problems in certain areas or tell you you don't. Then, when they confirm those problems, you can come on here and get practical advice. If they deny you have a problem in a certain area, then you know you won't need advice from the forum.

First, though, you have to build up trust and openness for that to work, and you have to give something back. But those girls, if socially aware, will give you good feedback that is similar to the advice here, but you sort of have to sift through the bs first to be able to get to the pearls of wisdom.

If you want some proof of the advice girls can give, I'll send you a transcript of a text conversation I was having with my co-worker where I was self reflective and she confirmed my suspicions. (i.e. I was overdoing cocky funny.) If they talk to and see you enough, they will be able to give you some good advice.

Author:  textytext [ Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for an over the phone wingman

wingman is the wrong term for what you are looking for. wingman is used in the field. he assists you with building value, distracting other people in the sets, etc. you are looking for a coach or advisor. that being said if you email me i can offer some limited advice.

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