PUA Forum :: Something is very wrong

I'm not sure what you're asking here honestly.

Is your problem not being able to approach women?

Or is your problem making the conversation once
you start talking with women?

Approaching women and having conversations with them is not that hard, once you get 2 things:

1) You stop seeing yourself as a PICK-UP artist but you start seeing yourself
as just a normal dude who is out there meeting new people

2) You develop a skill of knowing how to talk to people

One of my favourite ways to approach a girl during the day, is to stop her on the street and say something
like,

"Hey, I just saw you from over there, and thought you were really cute... I had to come
over and say Hi, or else I would hate myself for the rest of the day..."

And then when she says "O thanks", then change the subject by asking her "So where are you headed today?" just so it doesn't feel weird.

And have a casual, normal conversation with her about what she does.

The mindset you want to have is not that you're picking up women, but that you
are out there MEETING PEOPLE.

Instead of looking at yourself like a PICK-UP ARTIST, look at yourself like a NORMAL GUY who is just
meeting new people.

A lot of anxiety or weirdness comes from feeling like you're doing something wrong...like you're trying to
seduce women and get something from them.

So change how you look at yourself, be a normal guy and talk to women.

If the conversation doesn't work out, go to the next one...and then the next one...and then keep going
until you get a hang of it and you become natural.

If you feel approach anxiety is your problem, where you feel fear about approaching her for the first
time, then do something about it.

There is a lot of advice out there on how to get rid of your fear, from saying Hi to random women on the streets
to asking for directions.

But I have to say, the best way to get rid of your fear of talking to women is to actually go out
and talk to women.

Literally nothing can replace a real world experience of you talking to women.

However, if you would like something that is somewhat less painful, then I invite you to take part in
my test group, where I'm testing my new 1-hour Approach Anxiety Cure technique.

Details in my signature below.

Remember, the key is to start seeing yourself as a normal dude, not as a pick-up artist.

Once you do that, and you change your self-image to a guy who is social and outgoing, you won't be
ignored or rejected anymore.

Author:	alyien [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Something is very wrong
To get ignored everytime. I realize I can make conversation with guys and stuff meet new people that are male. I have no idea if I can with girls really because I'm not given a single chance. I did date last month and could talk to her fine so I can't be THAT bad. Also in my early 20s I knew alot of girls as acquaintances or friends just not anymore so I do have it in me somewhere. I mean I must have made 50 approaches now, its hard to keep going with this kind of progress. This is daygame btw. ive gone nightgame once at a club and yeah the competition is too hard to deal with there and I pretty much get ignored or insulted. (i have been to clubs many times before but i never tried approaching or anything outside the dance floor which was always a fail except for a couple occasions. Raves I've done great with dance floor stuff in the past but even now it 100% rejection.) id love to blame my looks but none of my wings have looked good and do well so i can only say that its my lack of confidence comes out but even then hard to believe i can't get one conversation going. this is pretty much unheard of from what ive read online.

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
You have to stick with it, firstly... Learn from rejection. You're not necessarily doing anything wrong - but you're probably not doing anything right either, if you're failing... So adapt your approaches. If you're having shitty luck with one line, switch to another. If you have success with a line, but lose her when you ask for the number, stick with the line and adapt the part where you ask for the number. Daygame is tough anyway, dude. I'd also urge you to look for IOIs before making approaches. Watch for girls that make eye contact with you. I would suggest that it's much easier if you've got an IOI to approach with instead of just going in cold.

Author:	oceanx [ Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
It's all in your mindframe. You have to know, embody and FULLY BELIEVE without a single shadow of a doubt that you are presenting this girl with the GIFT of your presence. Until you fully believe this it will be an uphill climb. Getting some minor successes under your belt can help you to bolster this feeling. So go to a girl "hey I forgot my phone what time is it." She gives the time. You eject. Go to the next girl "hey tell me where the nearest Starbucks is from here." She tells you. You eject. Try it like that for a bit. Start small and build up as you gain confidence from these little victories. Don't go for the full approach right out of the gate. You don't go to her like you are looking to impress her, or get something from her. You preside over her like the MAN you know you are, and you expect her to swoon for you. You subcommunicate a flirty vibe with her. Now, a lot of your issues may be coming from the method you are employing. If you are in fact going with a direct approach then it could explain a lot. Direct approaches can be QUITE jarring to a girl, and rightly so.

Author:	blackendstars [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
From what I'm getting, you approach with NO CONFIDENCE at all. Please watch this video. This will explain to you exactly what is wrong with your approaches. hope it helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzrc8fZISDo

Author:	Late Bloomer [ Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
This is great general advice but you should post your actual openers and interactions here and you'll get a ton of specific feedback.

PUA Forum https://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/

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Author:	Black Phantom [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
I'm not sure what you're asking here honestly. Is your problem not being able to approach women? Or is your problem making the conversation once you start talking with women? Approaching women and having conversations with them is not that hard, once you get 2 things: 1) You stop seeing yourself as a PICK-UP artist but you start seeing yourself as just a normal dude who is out there meeting new people 2) You develop a skill of knowing how to talk to people One of my favourite ways to approach a girl during the day, is to stop her on the street and say something like, "Hey, I just saw you from over there, and thought you were really cute... I had to come over and say Hi, or else I would hate myself for the rest of the day..." And then when she says "O thanks", then change the subject by asking her "So where are you headed today?" just so it doesn't feel weird. And have a casual, normal conversation with her about what she does. The mindset you want to have is not that you're picking up women, but that you are out there MEETING PEOPLE. Instead of looking at yourself like a PICK-UP ARTIST, look at yourself like a NORMAL GUY who is just meeting new people. A lot of anxiety or weirdness comes from feeling like you're doing something wrong...like you're trying to seduce women and get something from them. So change how you look at yourself, be a normal guy and talk to women. If the conversation doesn't work out, go to the next one...and then the next one...and then keep going until you get a hang of it and you become natural. If you feel approach anxiety is your problem, where you feel fear about approaching her for the first time, then do something about it. There is a lot of advice out there on how to get rid of your fear, from saying Hi to random women on the streets to asking for directions. But I have to say, the best way to get rid of your fear of talking to women is to actually go out and talk to women. Literally nothing can replace a real world experience of you talking to women. However, if you would like something that is somewhat less painful, then I invite you to take part in my test group, where I'm testing my new 1-hour Approach Anxiety Cure technique. Details in my signature below. Remember, the key is to start seeing yourself as a normal dude, not as a pick-up artist. Once you do that, and you change your self-image to a guy who is social and outgoing, you won't be ignored or rejected anymore.

Author:	alyien [ Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Something is very wrong
Quote: I'm not sure what you're asking here honestly. Is your problem not being able to approach women? Or is your problem making the conversation once you start talking with women? Approaching women and having conversations with them is not that hard, once you get 2 things: 1) You stop seeing yourself as a PICK-UP artist but you start seeing yourself as just a normal dude who is out there meeting new people 2) You develop a skill of knowing how to talk to people One of my favourite ways to approach a girl during the day, is to stop her on the street and say something like, "Hey, I just saw you from over there, and thought you were really cute... I had to come over and say Hi, or else I would hate myself for the rest of the day..." And then when she says "O thanks", then change the subject by asking her "So where are you headed today?" just so it doesn't feel weird. And have a casual, normal conversation with her about what she does. The mindset you want to have is not that you're picking up women, but that you are out there MEETING PEOPLE. Instead of looking at yourself like a PICK-UP ARTIST, look at yourself like a NORMAL GUY who is just meeting new people. A lot of anxiety or weirdness comes from feeling like you're doing something wrong...like you're trying to seduce women and get something from them. So change how you look at yourself, be a normal guy and talk to women. If the conversation doesn't work out, go to the next one...and then the next one...and then keep going until you get a hang of it and you become natural. If you feel approach anxiety is your problem, where you feel fear about approaching her for the first time, then do something about it. There is a lot of advice out there on how to get rid of your fear, from saying Hi to random women on the streets to asking for directions. But I have to say, the best way to get rid of your fear of talking to women is to actually go out and talk to women. Literally nothing can replace a real world experience of you talking to women. However, if you would like something that is somewhat less painful, then I invite you to take part in my test group, where I'm testing my new 1-hour Approach Anxiety Cure technique. Details in my signature below. Remember, the key is to start seeing yourself as a normal dude, not as a pick-up artist. Once you do that, and you change your self-image to a guy who is social and outgoing, you won't be ignored or rejected anymore. I've used a certain "thing" before to get rid of AA so in the past so its not that. Plus when I'm with a wing I'm pushed to approach anyway. I pretty much use the same opener as you but I am ignored, so forget the idea of having a conversation. I guess I must come across like the bad example of how to speak in the video above. Infact that is what I have been told during bootcamp. I've had to stop for now again because I am already depressed SPAM and I think I need to take voice lessons before I try again. I think you have to be happy and content with your life to have any confidence which would result in a proper approach. And being a 28 year old virgin with few friends that gets treated like shit by girls doesn't make me a happy person, kinda an endless cycle.

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