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Author:  CialdrinD [ Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  What comes after Number close?
During daygame, I'm able to approach girls and talk to them, I can tell them they are hot and I wanna have a romance most of the time. But I'm not getting a lot of dates and number close 70% of the time. They are all flaky.

How do you build comfort? Be a seducer? How to text, call them?


I have got a few lays but still nowhere the results i would like. How do i get more dates?
Author:  Cdharders [ Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
Lol, loaded post.

Sounds like you're very direct. Without knowing what you're saying, I can't give more feedback. If numbers are flakes, usually it's because you did something wrong in the initial interaction.

Common mistakes:
-Not setting up a date while in the initial interaction
-Being creepy
Author:  NaughtyNapoleon [ Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
One way to prevent flaky is set up date with her right away, set a simple date, like have a cup of drink or coffee near your place, preferably within two days.

Try this and you will see you won't get flaked so much.

Another way is your conversation.. check out my blog for upcoming post on that.
Author:  DrewDating [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
its not what you do after the number it is what you do before the number close that is messing you up

figure out a reason to get there number before you just get it- have a justified reason! or it just seems like a pickup

i'm assuming that is the issue because that is the problem most guys do.
Author:  Ess-P [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
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During daygame, I'm able to approach girls and talk to them, I can tell them they are hot and I wanna have a romance most of the time. But I'm not getting a lot of dates and number close 70% of the time. They are all flaky.

How do you build comfort? Be a seducer? How to text, call them?


I have got a few lays but still nowhere the results i would like. How do i get more dates?
AaayAyay....fellow AFC. Don't tell a girl she is hot - most of the time, they will see you as a creepy perv who has no game. This may be why your not scoring dates...they just want to get you out of the way and go about their day. Then I bet you 95% of the time, they'll text their friend with something like "omg I just got hit on by this creepy guy". Trust me.

Think of more creative things to say. A hot girl knows she's hot most of the time. Notice the little things - her jewelry, her clothing, her feet. (Feet always works). Be playful and witty - neg her a little and tease her when her body language shows that she's shy or flattered. Then keep it short - don't let her leave. YOU MUST LEAVE and tell her YOU GOTTA GET BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE DOING - then ask for her number.

Once you've got her number, the playfulness must continue - nowadays, you need to learn the texting game - again, be witty and entertain her with jokes or how you think she's suck a dork. Then get serious when you've made attraction then ask her if she wants to do soemthing out of the norm. This is when you set up a day/time to pick her up and take her go kart racing. (Lol) or soemthing fun
Author:  Evan White [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
There is nothing wrong with the direct approach, however since you are getting so many flakes perhaps a more subtle strategy is in order.

It is correct that you have not hooked correctly if you are not getting follow-up dates.

Here are some things for you to implement; try them out in the field and let us know your results.

1. Connection

The idea here is you want the girl to feel pair bonded with you after a short interaction. Pair bonding is the evolutionary mechanism that has developed in humans to ensure the raising of children to maturity between two parents. Basically, she wants to know that you are going to stick around whether or not sex is involved. By being so direct and complementing her on her sexuality you are violating the pair bond principle. Next time you approach, establish more connection, find more things in common with her. I use a technique called the 3x3 matrix for this:

- What do you do?
- "I'm a doctor..."
- Is it weird, knowing that peoples lives are in your hands?
- "No, I'm used to it."
- Really, so you don't have nightmares or anything like that?
- "No, not really..."

^ The above is a 1x3 matrix... you found one topic and you went 3 steps deep on it.

Now do that for two other topics, family is always a great one...

- So are you close with your parents?
- "Yes, I love them."
- So that means you want to have a close-knit family then? Or do you enjoy the freedom too much?
- "Freedom is nice, but it's always nice to feel loved."
- Whats the most romantic thing your dad has ever done for your mom? <--- This is a loaded one!
- "..."

Now that makes a 2x3, pick one more topic, go 3 levels down and you will have what I call a 3x3 matrix of familiarity. This will make it MUCH easier to follow-up via text, and meet again in the future.

2. Value

You are not making her invest enough.

Notice in the communication section, she is having to pull potentially personal answers out, and give them to you. Remember, there are always two things at play:

- Value
and
- Energy

You want her to be investing energy, in order to balance out your own perceived value. If she is not investing, that means you have not established value strongly enough, and you need to look into techniques in order to do that.

3. Time-Bridge

Are you setting up the follow-up date on the spot? Because if you are not... its like casting a fishing net with holes.
Always, always, always time-bridge during the number close, it will double, if not triple your success rate.

What is a time bridge? If you are day-gaming on a Wednesday... set something up for Friday night, the weekend, or early in the following week -> Critical thing is do NOT be vague: "Lets meet sometime next week" isn't good enough. You need to say: "I am free next Tuesday at 8pm, we are doing Thai food and drinks, text me."

4. Text Game

It is possible your follow-up texts are not triggering the correct responses in her brain, however I cannot know this for certain. It is another possibility for your lack of follow-ups.

5. Emotional State

Remember, women respond to the emotional state they are feeling NOW. So when she gives you her number, she probably likes you... the trick is, by the time you text her she is in a DIFFERENT emotional state; you need to look at #1 (Connection), and find the things that will put her back into the same emotional state she was in when she gave you the number, does that make sense?




Enjoy,

Happy Sarging
Author:  CialdrinD [ Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
Thanks guys! I'll try to put those techniques in and see what happens.

One thing I want to ask is...how do you open? What angle? What I usually do is catch up to them and tap on their should from side or slightly in front of them and open...I have had a couple of women wierded out but pretty good results...or Is it necessary to jump in front of them and stop them? And what if you jump in front of them and they just start walking without acknowledging you?
Author:  falboe [ Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What comes after Number close?
One way to prevent flaky is set up date with her right away, set a simple date, like have a cup of drink or coffee near your place, preferably within two days.
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