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Author:  StinkyApple [ Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  The natural opener
My friend is natural(he don't know anything about this stuff). He will speak to a girl, with a nice, classy opener. And then maybe 15 min later, he directly tell her, that he is only interessted in sex. No minigames etc. just straight up. And guess what, he ends up with the girls.

But i don't understand, how he manages that, while i must go through certain set of rutines etc. to achieve the same.

Any experience or thoughts on this type of guy? I want some insight and analyze the behaviour of the natural guy.
Author:  Mastermind9000 [ Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The neutral opener
Do you maybe mean "Natural"?

In which case look at the forum here called "Natural Game" and search that on youtube (RSDAlexander).
Author:  StinkyApple [ Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The natural opener
Thanks and sorry, i meant natural.:D
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The natural opener
Congruence.

You're using routines... Routines are fake. Girls don't like when you try and be fake.

Your friend is being real. Girls like when a guy is real.

Just be real. Fuck the routines.
Author:  Donston [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The natural opener
How to Hook: 4 checklist/guidelines to hooking.

1) Attention 2) Interests 3) Decision 4) Action

(1) Attention: You can generally open with anything. Opening consists of:
1) You being loud enough for the girl to hear you.
2) The vibe you emit. Whether you are being sincere to the girl (providing value) and the opposite is you having an agenda (taking value).
3) What you say afterwards ... which is generating interests, which is explained in the next step.
(2) Interests: Making the interaction relevant to the girl.
- This can be achieved by assumptions/cold reads.
- Examples: "You have an innocent vibe to you." ... "You seem like the adventures type." ... "You look like you are from Miami."
* Assuming/cold reading a quality to a girl will peak the girls interests. The girl will wonder why you say that about her and will continue the interaction.
- You can do routines to generate this but, with experience (approaching and interacting with tons of girls) you will develop a skill of interpreting the type of girl she is from her ethnicity(stereotyping), fashion, vibe and guess it with high accuracy.
(3) Decision: Get the girl to make a decision that this interaction is a "man to woman" interaction not a "I am a dancing monkey and I will waste my time to entertain you for free".
- Either she stays when you introduce "man to woman" or she walks away. This will save you lots of time by screening out girls who you are chemically attracted to each other.
- No more dancing monkey mode.
- examples:
1) "I have decided that we are boyfriend and girlfriend for the night."
2) "I don't know why I like you so much."
3) "I have decided that we are married now."
4) And of course your friends line of, "I am only interested in sex."
- examples of none verbal methods:
1) Being physical.
2) Proximity: how close you are to each other ... meaning the space in between each other is super close.
* Basically, to the outside world you guys look like a couple.
- This is great to prevent AMOGers from ruining your sets because they will think that you guys are together.
3) Laser beam eye contact.
(4) Action: aka ... investment.
- Getting the girl to invest in the interaction. From leading, to mini bounces, to screening the girl, and getting her to jump through your hoops (aka: getting compliance from her).
- The result should be her gaming you. With her trying while you are not trying. It's like you are the buyer and she is the seller.

Hope that helped ^_^!

Sincerely,

Donston
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