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Author:  DrMabuse2008 [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind needed.
Over the past couple of months I've been reading, watching video's on pickups etc....trying to improve myself.
Now I don't have a wingman so I usually go out solo trying to apply all the learned stuff alone. I can approach and open just fine. But then I seem to hit a brickwall failing at closing. The more I try, the more I seem to fail. I met this girl in a club. She always seems pleased to see me. (Or maybe she's just realy drunk every time I see her.) Usually greets me with a peck on the cheek or the lips. But for some reason after that I just falter and go on about making my rounds across the room. Yesterday was another failure. She was there again and I did the same sh*t as described above. And she ended up making out with some other guy. Now I don't know, I'm not realy tall and she's taller then me. Perhaps it's a subconsious thing? Or maybe I just suck.
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Author:  .Sage. [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
Prepare for a kick. And yes it is subconscious, we in the PUA community call it lack-o-confidence

First off, we've all been there. If you can't force yourself to make approaches just quit. But if you DO have an ounce, a SPECK of courage that you can use to just start talking to girls, use it. And even if you get blown out, don't focus on the negative stuff, because then just say to yourself

"Ok, i did it once, and I didn't die. Let's do it again, just one more time!"

And each time you do it, try and carry the convo further and further. Even if you get blown out of the set, pat yourself on the back for actually talking. You see what's happening here? It's a great big snowball effect if you take it one step at a time. Don't expect too much at the beginning, take small victories and build upon them.

Generally though, to get good at this what you need is confidence in yourself. Work on that before trying to actually sleep with girls (Because the chances of it happening without being confident are next to none...)
Author:  DrMabuse2008 [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
It's not the approach or opening I'm having difficulty with it's hauling them in for the proverbial kill. I can talk to girls but when I try to take it further I sort of break down.
Author:  jamesd31 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
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It's not the approach or opening I'm having difficulty with it's hauling them in for the proverbial kill. I can talk to girls but when I try to take it further I sort of break down.
I think you are having the problem I am having right now. You get the girl attracted, the IOI's are there - AND YOU KNOW THIS.. i know this. But you keep going with routines, you keep fluffing, you don't kiss close and bring the girl home! I realized now that I am just gaming too long, I can get the IOI's, I can get the attraction, I just get a little worried that the "IOI's aren't enough" or that I "haven't finished my routine list" and keep going and that wastes time and ruins the moment.

Like it is said 3 IOI's, than switch and go in for the kill.
Author:  Dr_Hoffmann [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
That's around the point you should be kino escalating. It's amazing what even the smallest touches can do. If you're a bit shy, then start by pretending to be interested in a wristband of ring shes wearing as an excuse to touch her hand or wrist, and try to escalate it from there. The places I find work well are holding their hand, touching their forearm and small of their back. A thing to remember is that girls aren't wired to make the first move.. They may want to do the same to you but are too shy to initiate it. Just remember, keep your movements slow and smooth. Give it a try.
Author:  Disco90 [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DsVwYqV ... 63FDD24035

Ive incorporated what Gambler teaches here into my game over the last few weeks, and I have to say it's gold. Pretty much a 100% success rate for me, not exagerrating.
Author:  worldrunner [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
Quote:
I think you are having the problem I am having right now. You get the girl attracted, the IOI's are there - AND YOU KNOW THIS.. i know this. But you keep going with routines, you keep fluffing, you don't kiss close and bring the girl home! I realized now that I am just gaming too long, I can get the IOI's, I can get the attraction, I just get a little worried that the "IOI's aren't enough" or that I "haven't finished my routine list" and keep going and that wastes time and ruins the moment.

Like it is said 3 IOI's, than switch and go in for the kill.
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:25 pm
You are missing the whole point, you are not in a competition where the one who F-closes more 10s wins, nobody will give a F@ck about your numbers.... Once girls drop the shields and want to be with you, FORGET about gaming and tactics just HAVE FUN and ENJOY her presence.
Author:  DrMabuse2008 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
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It's not the approach or opening I'm having difficulty with it's hauling them in for the proverbial kill. I can talk to girls but when I try to take it further I sort of break down.
I think you are having the problem I am having right now. You get the girl attracted, the IOI's are there - AND YOU KNOW THIS.. i know this. But you keep going with routines, you keep fluffing, you don't kiss close and bring the girl home! I realized now that I am just gaming too long, I can get the IOI's, I can get the attraction, I just get a little worried that the "IOI's aren't enough" or that I "haven't finished my routine list" and keep going and that wastes time and ruins the moment.

Like it is said 3 IOI's, than switch and go in for the kill.
That sounds about right. I'm kinda worried I'm gonna get slapped if I move in too heavy. So it usually stays at a pleasant conversation.
Author:  DrMabuse2008 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
Quote:
Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DsVwYqV ... 63FDD24035

Ive incorporated what Gambler teaches here into my game over the last few weeks, and I have to say it's gold. Pretty much a 100% success rate for me, not exagerrating.
This is realy good stuff!!! Thanks. Will try to apply it next weekend. Thanks!!!
Author:  TheAnimal [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
so what if you get slapped?? it's the price to pay by being confedent and not giving a fuck. im not saying that you should be a jerk, but be the person where people starts to feel lucky to be around you and feel blessed by your company, be the best that you can be!!
Author:  DrMabuse2008 [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
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so what if you get slapped?? it's the price to pay by being confedent and not giving a fuck. im not saying that you should be a jerk, but be the person where people starts to feel lucky to be around you and feel blessed by your company, be the best that you can be!!
Well, yeah. But I think that being the person people want to be around also means not getting slapped.
Not to mention it would wreck havoc with my confidence the rest of the evening.
Author:  TheAnimal [ Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What the hell is wrong with me? Kick in the behind neede
as long as you're not being rude or overly creepy, you're not going to be slapped. you just need to say things as it is, you're not looking for a friend so no need to all friendly and so on, make sure to be sexual and make it shine out of you along sides with the coinfidence... and dont be afraid to get reject, everybody gets rejected, if it is such a big deal for you start with some girls less attractive, and build up you're selfesteem
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