PUA Forum :: How to take it further with "Hired Guns"?

I'm very against hired guns, just because I see them as cockteasers. So if you are going to game them, I'd do it in such a way that it either gets you a date, or makes them feel like a complete loser for working in whatever shitty place they are at. For instance, DHV yourself and tell them how you are a stockbroker or whatever and you make all this money. Who knows, maybe they'll be impressed and want to get with you. Then ask them why they are working at Starbucks and if they have any bigger plans in life. DLV them.

If they reject your offer to go out, you can be like "C'mon, you should try to date someone outside your socio-economic bracket sometime...maybe that way you'll actually move up in life!" And say it with a smile or laugh like it's funny, eventhough that's an incredible insult. Keep in mind, she's still being paid to laugh along with you.

Author:	Jon-Jon [ Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:21 am ]
Post subject:	How to take it further with "Hired Guns"?
I'm new to this and I'm sure that I have misinterpreted the term "Hired Guns" in this instance. So I met this girl that works at a small coffee shop, she's really bubbly and quirky. (but then it's her job to be friendly with the customers.) I'd like to know how to get together with her outside of her work environment. Any ideas??? The more ideas the better, I'm keen to try it and see what works.

Author:	b1sgas [ Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:16 pm ]
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The best way its to take a coffee with some girl friends, make them laugh, she'll see that you are approved by other woman, then make eye contact and tease her. "You know, there is a paradox in becoming a bartender." - You (I'm Portuguese and don't know how you call to coffee worker!!!) "Oh really. And what is that?" - Her "You meet so many people, but you don't really meet anybody at all." - You "What do you mean?" - Her "Well, you can talk to a lot of people, but you can't ever get to know them; you are on that side and they are always on the other. Even if you liked the person, it would never work because you would always look at him as the guy from the coffee-shop." - You *Most bartenders will agree with you, but they will also try to counter that notion. So you can follow it up with something like... "Don't get me wrong here, I think you're a cool person, but I wouldn't even bother asking for your number." - You Then just add some convo, body language is very important, you can't speak direct to her, lay back to the balcony, its almost impossible to escalate kino, so ask when will she leave the work, say that you are very busy on that day, ask her for her number, text her in the day after. Then game her like she would be a normal girl that you meet at the subway!

Author:	puaninja [ Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:31 pm ]
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I'm very against hired guns, just because I see them as cockteasers. So if you are going to game them, I'd do it in such a way that it either gets you a date, or makes them feel like a complete loser for working in whatever shitty place they are at. For instance, DHV yourself and tell them how you are a stockbroker or whatever and you make all this money. Who knows, maybe they'll be impressed and want to get with you. Then ask them why they are working at Starbucks and if they have any bigger plans in life. DLV them. If they reject your offer to go out, you can be like "C'mon, you should try to date someone outside your socio-economic bracket sometime...maybe that way you'll actually move up in life!" And say it with a smile or laugh like it's funny, eventhough that's an incredible insult. Keep in mind, she's still being paid to laugh along with you.

Author:	_EXPRESS_ [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:28 pm ]
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Quote: I'm very against hired guns, just because I see them as cockteasers. So if you are going to game them, I'd do it in such a way that it either gets you a date, or makes them feel like a complete loser for working in whatever shitty place they are at. For instance, DHV yourself and tell them how you are a stockbroker or whatever and you make all this money. Who knows, maybe they'll be impressed and want to get with you. Then ask them why they are working at Starbucks and if they have any bigger plans in life. DLV them. If they reject your offer to go out, you can be like "C'mon, you should try to date someone outside your socio-economic bracket sometime...maybe that way you'll actually move up in life!" And say it with a smile or laugh like it's funny, eventhough that's an incredible insult. Keep in mind, she's still being paid to laugh along with you. I believe this tactic will work, (Personally, I won't use this tactic) but only on a suitable 10. If you can convey what you are saying in a confident, non-belittling manner, then you might be lucky enough to get this target to comply and give you her number. I think if you are going to use this, you must, and let me repeat myself, you must proceed with caution!! What if you are unlucky enough to catch this target on a bad day, or in a bad mood, she might slap this shit out of you or bitch you out. So calibrate your targets mood correctly, proceed with caution, and calibrate the conversation accordingly. Then again, you must be willing to lose then, if you want to get them. Out of curiosity, have you tried this tactic? Did it work? What was the feedback? ....Thinking about it, I'm almost eager to try this somehow and see if will work, but its not in my personality to try and brag directly, so might not be successful for me, as it would for someone else. Cheers & good luck sarging! _EXPRESS_

Author:	_EXPRESS_ [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:59 pm ]
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Quote: *Most bartenders will agree with you, but they will also try to counter that notion. So you can follow it up with something like... "Don't get me wrong here, I think you're a cool person, but I wouldn't even bother asking for your number." - You Then just add some convo, body language is very important, you can't speak direct to her, lay back to the balcony, its almost impossible to escalate kino, so ask when will she leave the work, say that you are very busy on that day, ask her for her number, text her in the day after. Then game her like she would be a normal girl that you meet at the subway! I really like this!! I'm going to have to put this in my arsenal. Its very smooth.(Coo dos b1sgas!) You are DHVing+, You have the targets attention with the gambit, and then you are neging her at the end! Classic! If you were to say this loud enough for someone to over hear(If there happen to be other potential targets near by) you would also be using false disqualifier. You are letting the other targets hear that you wouldn't ask for her number, inreturn, they are all going to be curious as to know why...You go the HOOKED!! One thing I did notice is you number closed? But you told her you wouldn't ask for her number? I like they way you did it, very smooth, but would you be doing this after you have received IOIs?(Please elaborate!) I think I would do as you did, but instead of asking of her number, tell her to give it to you (Perfect opportunity to give her a compliance test) . Now you may or may-not get compliance, which now you calibrate the situation accordingly. What do you think? -_EXPRESS_-

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Author:	SirPounceAlot [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:07 am ]
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hired guns hahahahahahaa.... Thats what I think on how to game them... Basically...dont do anything ANYONE ELSE is doing to them... do NOTTTT waste a single cent on them tell them to take their hands off the merchandise (you)..unless they can tell you why you should get to know them better so that you can allow them to touch you (have them try and qualify themselves to you) Neg them....do not allow them to touch you...dont waste a cent...qualify her DHV...then...Tell um a good story to get her thinking sexually with you and kino on your terms, NOT HERS... Basically do anything everyone else isn't doing...keep you wallet in the car....(why)... Tell them, you might give them a penny if they are on their good behavoir and help you find the penny in the car or some other garbage like that... It's easier said than done, but thats about it...where did I come up with it?...Mystery came up with the above, (other than the penny...thats just a personal favorite I use for strippers).

Author:	User13247 [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:52 pm ]
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Isn't it interesting how some guys tends to put 'hired guns' on a pedestal by: 1. Singling them out as such 2. Saying that they are really difficult to seduce 3. Creating specific 'tactics' for them A girl is a girl, some girls feign interest in you to get something from you. They can be strippers, bartenders, or just random girls you meet in a club, the bus, or in college. Never trade anything for their attention except your attention, and you'll need never worry about what she wants from you.

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