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Author:  pretty_boy [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  a neg gone too far

went up to the bar in a club on saturday and seen a hb6.5 in a police uniform ordering a drink at the bar, i wernt bothered about her rly but i though i'd speak to her a bit n see how she was

me - you know you shouldn't be drinking while ur on duty

fucking bitch - looks at me like im a piece of shit and says 'thats why im ordering water' then gives a smirk to her friends

me - 'ok then no need to be a fucking cunt:)' her face melted n her friends turned away from her cuz they cudnt stop giggling, i said thanks for the conversation and walked off

dont know what i was trying to accomplish but it was comical none the least haha

Author:  SmartStyle [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:49 pm ]
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Ouch, that was a heavy bitch-shield =)
In my opinion, the opener was quite creative, but her answer was very rude. Perhaps, a good method would have been to stack an opinion opener after that, doing a little roleplay with her by continuing to treat her like a police woman. The expression and voice tonality would have been very important.
This could have worked, but another problem was the spatial distance to her group.
I would have been easier to open her group, waiting for her to rejoin, and then running the opener as a neg to her.
In my opinion, your answer was no neg at all, because it was too offensive and she had no reason to stay with you and begin a conversation.

Author:  Ezo [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:25 pm ]
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In fact, I am not at all surprised by her reaction. From her perspective, you came in, had lower social status (shes a girl they are higher by default until...) and told her what to do. A strong independent woman dont take that. I had this reaction too, in Scandinavia, thats common.

I would try more neutral openers, like opinion openers... Innovative but once in a while you come across people who get offended. Don“t let it bring you down man, keep sarging!

Ezo

Author:  pretty_boy [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:50 pm ]
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yea i understand that, i knew i could have worked my charm on her and got her to open up to me but i was drunk and fort if my 1st line dont open her then im not gonna bother lol

just thought i'd post it for shits and giggles

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