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Author:  Valdast94 [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Handshaking opener
Ok guys, since I don't like using openers invented by other PUA's because I look unnatural when I run them, I'd like to invent my own opener (first of many).
I came up with an idea and I want to share it with you to see whether it can actually work (I don't know whether it's already been used/invented by someone else. Besides, I've never actually tested it, that's why I want your opinion on it :D ).
I call it the "Handshaking opener" and it would go like that:

Me: "Hey guys, I need your quick female opinion on something"
Girls: "Sure" (or whatever else)
Me: I've recently read on the internet that about 70% of girls don't shake hand properly due to lack of confidence, what do you think about that?
Girls: blah, blah, blah
Me: Ok, I have to leave soon, it looks like you girls have a strong personality, I'm actually gonna test and see whether I'm right

Here, if everything goes right, I shake their hands, starting with the 2 obstables and giving them neutral comments. When I shake my target's hand I will say something like "mmh..interesting..you shake hands like my grandmother!"

And then I'll enter my next routine.

Any tips or improvements will be well accepted.
And if you discard it altogether I won't get upset either, I swear! :D
Author:  puaninja [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:37 pm ]
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I like it for the most part, but I don't think you need the grandmother neg on the end. Not only is it an attempt at rudeness, but who has actually shaken their grandma's hand?!? It doesn't make sense. I also think that it sets you up for being fucked with, and some of the girls might yank your arm all spastically or squeeze your hand real hard.

But if you had some palm reading skills that would transition nicely into some palm reading and kino. So you might be on to something depending on how you stack this routine, and if you iron out some of the potential kinks.
Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:47 pm ]
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To me it seems ok if that's what you want to use, but the best thing you can do is test it for yourself.
You'll know from a couple of approaches what works & what doesn't and amend accordingly, however, I do agree the 'Grandma' thing being more of a neg.

Keep the "mmh.. interesting..." bit but be more constructive to her, tell her what interests you about it even if it is made up.

*Neg = punishment for non compliance (bad behaviour)*

You do not need to 'punish' her for good behaviour you expect - she is complying with what you've asked her (she's jumped through your hoop) so she should be rewarded accordingly.

There are exceptions to negging in an opener but are typically reserved for HB10's where you need to be more counter-intuitive.
Author:  Valdast94 [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:55 am ]
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Ok guys thanks for the tips, I'll try it soon! :D
Author:  Mason1228 [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:22 pm ]
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I might actually have to try this one next time i go out.
Author:  SoFly [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:58 pm ]
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I'm trying this. This actually sound's great.
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:47 am ]
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Shaking hands is supposed to be a normal human to human part of the interaction. Don't become a social robot. Shake her hand when you introduce yourself. Simple as that.

FlaiR
Author:  TheKoon [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:56 am ]
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Learn some palm reading skills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5w8wvzfp0
Author:  Fvckitimout [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:56 am ]
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Your delivery is too formal and boring and most of all too safe. Not fun at all especially if used at a high energy environment.

Go up to her look her in the eye and just give her your hand. She shakes it, act like are analyzing something.

She wont be able to help but ask you what the fuck is going on, and then explain it.

And no dont go into another routine for goodness sake, she'll be wondering if you're a street performer.

Save the routines when your sitting and shes already hooked.
Author:  Valdast94 [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:00 pm ]
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I see your point...but once she's shaked my hand and I have explained everything, how should I go to the next routine?
Author:  puaninja [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:28 pm ]
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The fact that you shook her hand doesn't matter. You still need additional routine to fall back on, or being natural, whatever. But the point is that you can't just let it die after the handshake.

If I used that routine I would grab her hand with both hands and look at it and then do a palm reading. Or I'd pull my hand away and rub it and ask her "Why are your hands so dry/wet?" then laugh it off in a teasing manner. Or if she gripped it tight, I'd laugh that she has a Hercules grip and ask if she works out, then ask where, then tell her I do too in order to DHV myself. Do you see where I'm going with this? You have a lot of options here.
Author:  Fvckitimout [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:27 am ]
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I see your point...but once she's shaked my hand and I have explained everything, how should I go to the next routine?
Well this routine is basically an opener and a transition so you can just improvise with what she eventually reveals assuming you have good body language and you spiked her buying temp by making her laugh.

Lets say for example after you do the handshake and do your cold reading routine, she reveals she doesn't like touching people's hands. From that you gain lots of ways to continue the conversation saying e.g "I'm assuming you're a germophobe." you go into a story about something gross then ask her what her grossest story is OR you can just say a statement "I think that is honestly retarded. I'm so sorry to know that such a beautiful girl like you can be so weird. When you see she's laughing or excirted leverage that towards some deeper connection by getting to know each other a bit better telling stories about you and making her share stories about her. You are wasting the chance if her buying temperatures spikes and you just go into another cold reading routine.
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