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Author:  viniciuspua [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Is this opener threatening

Approaching smiling:

When you die, you will rather prefer go to heaven or hell?

and then, they will say: heaven, of course.

Well, why?

It's better, peacefull bla bla

I have to disagree. Hell it's a better place. There's a lot of interesting people there, It's summer everyday, beer, women all around, etc.

I'll develop more the opener with funny stuffs, negs, and such, but my question is: Is this threatening? I mean. You go there and say "when you die you will rather prefer heaven or hell?". It sounds like I'm going to kill them? hahaha
Isn't it a good subject, talking about death even though I'll be funny and smiling?

Thank you. By the way, sorry my english mistakes.

Author:  viniciuspua [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:29 pm ]
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Quote:
I wouldnt say its threatening but it sure can come off as creepy if you run that in the wrong setting lol :)
That's what I'm afraid of.
I never did it before(I never did an opener, I used to start a talk with Hi, what's your name? and that kind of boring stuff).

What about I use this thread in the middle of the game(after 4-5 minutes chatting)?

Thank you.

Author:  AlphaConfidence [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:27 pm ]
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Perfect! All you need to do now is approach girls in dark allys with a gun (prop) make reference to a bullets velocity, then assure them 50cent lived through 9 shots (you know a little push-pull), then disqualify yourself by saying how you only like blondes and beleive in purifying society, grab her by the hair (kino escalation) then whisper that opener in there ear with a serious voice.

If the above senario seems "threatening" to you, it's because it is. Asking a girl where they think there are going when they die, as a fucking OPENER! Is stupid! I'm sorry bro but if I was walking with my sister and a guy "opened" her with that line I would punch him the FUCK OUT! You've said you have never "opened" a girl before, look up one of the MILLIONS! of canned openers on this forum and use one of those, this "opener" fits better as a late transition. Hopefully you've read this before attempting this and getting bear maced or arrested.

Cheers, Confidence.

Author:  AlphaConfidence [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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Tony I completely agree with it "all being about the frame" but the fact that this guy has states he has "never used a canned opener before" - how good do you think his "frame" will be? I agree in that a mPUA can pull openers such as this off, I've seen a client open with "Let's not make this a rape and a murder" to explain the purpose of framing conversations. The fact of the matter is, statements are different then an open ended question such as the one proposed. A statement as an conversation starter followed with light banter and a smile is different then an open ended question. All I'm saying is I hope the guy who asked this question wasn't a neurosurgeon from Colarado with a short fuse, smoke grenades, and pent up sexual aggression. This as an opener, unless used by mPUA, will not work. To be fair, I will attempt this opener and then have a few of my clients how have "never used a canned opener" before then post a field report, you should do the same.

Author:  Sluggler [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:36 pm ]
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:lol:

If someone said that to me i would honestly get a little creeped/weird out. Haha.

Just being honest, that can possibly come of creepy, but try it out and report back how it works out. It may be the "Magic Opener" a lot of newbies are looking for.

Sluggler :lol:

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