PUA Forum :: Where should I go after a direct opener?

Im trying to figure out where to go after a direct opener.
Should I go into A2 by DHVing & Neging
Or do I skip A2 and go straight to A3 by qualifying her.

EG
Excuse me
I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today.
(Oh Thanks)
Im James btw.
A2 A3 C1
A3 C1

????

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What da? I'm confused by these numbers and shit. First off if you go direct why do you apologise. Second you shouldn't take those phases so seriously. They're just there to serve as a guide, it's not like a Bible.

Now to answer your question, after this she should be shocked a little. So I'd start with something like this. "You look confused. Don't things like this happen to you often?" And then you can try relating some fun story to her answer and start actual talking which is kind of normal game nothing crazy. And then you close. Pretty simplified, but direct game was never really about details. In fact it's not even really about where you go with the conversation it's your presence that matters the most.

if you are going by m3, simply opening direct you already qualified her based on her looks, there fore you are already in a3

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if you are going by m3, simply opening direct you already qualified her based on her looks, there fore you are already in a3

Yeah I'm going off the Mystery M3 Method.
I plan on using this material for day game on 1 or 2 sets.
So if I go in like this:
Excuse me
I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today.
(Usually say Thank you here)
I like your style, the way you put everything together its really stylish.
Then I'd roll off as if walking away.
Reopen with what do you do you seem quite interesting?
(she'd respond)
Then I'd respond to whatever she said and introduce myself.

And at this point I'm lost from here I easily fall into the friend zone from making basic conversation.

Any Tips on the routine and what to do next please.

Author:	James Brown [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:32 am ]
Post subject:	Where should I go after a direct opener?
Im trying to figure out where to go after a direct opener. Should I go into A2 by DHVing & Neging Or do I skip A2 and go straight to A3 by qualifying her. EG Excuse me I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today. (Oh Thanks) Im James btw. A2 A3 C1 A3 C1 ????

Author:	MynameisFisher [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:58 am ]
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Quote: Im trying to figure out where to go after a direct opener. Should I go into A2 by DHVing & Neging Or do I skip A2 and go straight to A3 by qualifying her. EG Excuse me I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today. (Oh Thanks) Im James btw. A2 A3 C1 A3 C1 ???? What da? I'm confused by these numbers and shit. First off if you go direct why do you apologise. Second you shouldn't take those phases so seriously. They're just there to serve as a guide, it's not like a Bible. Now to answer your question, after this she should be shocked a little. So I'd start with something like this. "You look confused. Don't things like this happen to you often?" And then you can try relating some fun story to her answer and start actual talking which is kind of normal game nothing crazy. And then you close. Pretty simplified, but direct game was never really about details. In fact it's not even really about where you go with the conversation it's your presence that matters the most.

Author:	pumpington [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:16 am ]
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if you are going by m3, simply opening direct you already qualified her based on her looks, there fore you are already in a3

Author:	James Brown [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Where should I go after a direct opener?
Quote: Quote: Im trying to figure out where to go after a direct opener. Should I go into A2 by DHVing & Neging Or do I skip A2 and go straight to A3 by qualifying her. EG Excuse me I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today. (Oh Thanks) Im James btw. A2 A3 C1 A3 C1 ???? What da? I'm confused by these numbers and shit. First off if you go direct why do you apologise. Second you shouldn't take those phases so seriously. They're just there to serve as a guide, it's not like a Bible. Now to answer your question, after this she should be shocked a little. So I'd start with something like this. "You look confused. Don't things like this happen to you often?" And then you can try relating some fun story to her answer and start actual talking which is kind of normal game nothing crazy. And then you close. Pretty simplified, but direct game was never really about details. In fact it's not even really about where you go with the conversation it's your presence that matters the most. Cool, thanks for the advice I know I don't want to follow the phases to strictly I just want to know where I am incase I fall lost in set.

Author:	James Brown [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:46 am ]
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Quote: if you are going by m3, simply opening direct you already qualified her based on her looks, there fore you are already in a3 Yeah I'm going off the Mystery M3 Method. I plan on using this material for day game on 1 or 2 sets. So if I go in like this: Excuse me I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today. (Usually say Thank you here) I like your style, the way you put everything together its really stylish. Then I'd roll off as if walking away. Reopen with what do you do you seem quite interesting? (she'd respond) Then I'd respond to whatever she said and introduce myself. And at this point I'm lost from here I easily fall into the friend zone from making basic conversation. Any Tips on the routine and what to do next please.

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Author:	pumpington [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:50 am ]
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Quote: Quote: if you are going by m3, simply opening direct you already qualified her based on her looks, there fore you are already in a3 Yeah I'm going off the Mystery M3 Method. I plan on using this material for day game on 1 or 2 sets. So if I go in like this: Excuse me I just had to stop you to let you know I think you look amazing today. (Usually say Thank you here) I like your style, the way you put everything together its really stylish. Then I'd roll off as if walking away. Reopen with what do you do you seem quite interesting? (she'd respond) Then I'd respond to whatever she said and introduce myself. And at this point I'm lost from here I easily fall into the friend zone from making basic conversation. Any Tips on the routine and what to do next please. nope, you assume attraction, you don't have to build it, if she opens she is attracted and that is your assumption, just escalate and qualify, then make a connection and close no need for the roll offs, or rapport breaks etc., just assume she is attracted, get to know her, find things out about her you can qualify her for, find commonalities, make a conversation, escalate, try to have sex with her, no routines needed, just genuine interest in her as a person another thing to consider is she has no investment in you at the start of the interaction, make it as easy for her as possible, and make your qualification just revolve around statements for a bit, until she starts to relax and invest in a conversation with you, the less she has to work at first the better, asking really general open ended questions is great for when she is invested, but if she doesn't see a reason to invest you will be getting alot of HAHA I DONNO, so at first make your questions guided to specifics, and if she can't answer narrow the question, the more she begins to invest the more general you can make your questions to the point where you are basically just... so tell me about yourself and let her talk the more she talks the better, but it is your job to try to lead her to what topic you want her talking about GOOD LUCK

Author:	James Brown [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:58 am ]
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Pumpington you are a LEGEND.

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