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Author:  yeeaabuddy [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:56 am ]
Post subject:  Can you tell if your improving in PICKUP?
I've been going out everyday around 2:30pm and spending at least two hours trying to approach people weather it's asking for directions or asking to help me pick out a book. I feel like I haven't improved at all because my approach anxiety feels almost the same as it was before. I really am pushing myself but growing up as a shy kid makes it 10 times harder. My question is does it mean I'm changing and becoming more confident by the day even if I don't see it right now? or that I'm just not meant for pickup?
Author:  AFC_Suave [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:10 am ]
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Everyone can learn pick up. The key of succeeding is being able to take failure and grow from it. Let me ask you a question, when you make those indirect approaches, how long does the conversation last usually ? Don't leave the set until they tell you to fuck off. stay in until you get rejected so you get used having longer conversation with strangers.

As for AA. I still have that. It doesn't really go away dude. But basically, you're playing it too safe - I know you just started and stuff. but if you really wanna improve your AA, I would recommend that you approach only 8,9 or 10 and make your objective of getting actually rejected. you HAVE to welcome rejection. That way, if you're able to approach a 9, for example, you could easily go for a 7 and succeed. and eventually you will gradually improve and be able to have convos with 8,9 and 10's. Or what you can do is simply go up to a really hot girl and say " Excuse me, I know this is gonna sound kinda random, but I just saw you, and thought you looked amazing. I had to come here and tell you that." then eject. just for practice.

The only way you win confidence, is by doing what you're anxious about. You could either whine about not approaching the girl, or you could face your anxiety, do the approach and you WILL gain confidence by making this decision.

But again, asking for direction is playing it too safe, it won't really get a rid of AA when you actually see a pretty hot girl and you want her. But it works if you got game and are able transition to something more interesting. Don't get discouraged man...Keep at it and you will notice the difference soon enough.
Author:  Suriyel [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:16 am ]
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It's a long path my friend, baby steps. though at first you may get shot down/ignored you will eventually get better if you keep trying.

AA is serious business and in some cases it can be crippling to some people. My advice is to take it slow but continuous What is it exactly that you're having trouble? You seem to be able to open easily. Is it running out of things to talk about go, mind going blank? Thinking your not meant for pick up is the wrong attitude you have to go about it differently and work on your inner game. Just remember Rome wasn't built in a day!

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A good tip an AMOG gave me once was to start talking to the lesser HBs I mean like 4,5,6 to get comfortable talking to girls and gradually start moving up the ladder. Surprisingly it helped.
Author:  yeeaabuddy [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:14 am ]
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Thanks for the reply guys, I love the fact that I know I'm capable of doing it but I just don't have the guts to when I'm out by myself. It's weird because It's hard enough to use canned openers but to use a direct or natural one feels like it's way out of my league. Anyways thanks for the advice guys I really appreciate it.
Author:  0uch [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:54 am ]
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is not over a day fix, or even a month.

In your case, if you really stick to it, minimum of 2 years. I would say, starting now, just say screw it to yourself, and start approaching women you find attractive. Go ahead and start with an opinion opener or asking for direction just ease in, then start going direct.

Keep in mind, your not actually dealing with any danger approaching women. All your really facing is rejection which is emotional pain. This pain, especially when your shy, is worse then physical pain. Just like how boxers get use to physical pain from fighting a lot, you have to get use to rejection by approaching a lot.
Author:  puanub [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:31 am ]
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I think AA never fades away, it only lessens. I've been practicing for a month now and my AA has lessen a little bit, what I try to do before approaching is take a deep breath then count 1 to 3 then approach. But sometimes I fail to approach my target because I'm over thinking. What i learned is don't think about what ifs' just do the approach.
Author:  Efildrah [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:45 pm ]
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You are giving more energy to AA every time you think about it.

And yes you are for pickup, or no you are not for pickup, you have to decide.
People who are naturally good with women, don't think about AA or getting rejected.

In order to entertain others and be liked ,first you have to love yourself and be funny with yourself all the time. People that tell good jokes do it even if they are alone. Point is to entertain yourself all the time!

Experiment and i think you have courage to make small steps in order to make big change. You proved that by approaching all those people on the street. Enjoy the ride mate, best of luck to you!
Author:  0uch [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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I think AA never fades away, it only lessens. I've been practicing for a month now and my AA has lessen a little bit, what I try to do before approaching is take a deep breath then count 1 to 3 then approach. But sometimes I fail to approach my target because I'm over thinking. What i learned is don't think about what ifs' just do the approach.

True! up until this day, My wings have to push me to open set. Only difference now, I am actually confident and can run game when I open, and I will hit state really quick and get all excited about opening instead of have AA.
Author:  Mantis- [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:26 am ]
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Don't overthink it, just go.
I once wasnt in a state of approaching (didnt feel like doing pickup).
But the bar was so fucking crowded that I could barely walk.
I just approached the first girl I saw and I said the most random thing I could, and she started kindda stalking me afterwards lol.

Just do it!
Also, I dont really like the idea of approaching to get rejected (I've done it too).
I think you rather get the wrong mindset from it, you should approach and just be like: idc if i get rejected.
If you approach to get rejected you are in the mindset: "I'm going in just to fail", I guess it could cause some inner game problems.
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