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Author:  Sleegee [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Direct Openers
Hi fellow PUAs.
Ive come to a conclusion that i dont like canned openers at all, i hat them. Especially opinion-openers. I feel that with direct openers you could increase the sexual tension much better and they require less time.
The problem, however, is that i cant come up with any besides the ones i already have. I kindly ask you guys to post your best direct openers, and with direct i dont mean "Your cute", "Hey sexy, me, you, toilet, now!", "Lets fuck". They should be smart and lead into a conversation where you can use routines and such.
Sorry for the wall of text :lol:

Best Regards,
Slegee
Author:  TylerW [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:25 am ]
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"Hi... whats your name?" Simple, but said with authority and a strong frame it can work very well. Have secondary material or lines ready to go.
Author:  0uch [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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"Hi... whats your name?" Simple, but said with authority and a strong frame it can work very well. Have secondary material or lines ready to go.
There you go.
Author:  Teh_Weapon [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:52 am ]
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Personally opinion based openers are the best for a reason: because it makes you seem like someone engaging in a conversation, not a pick up. It also allows you to get a feel for the situation before you just barrel on in there but do what you want brother, everyone has got their own style.

GL
Author:  AFC_Suave [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:22 am ]
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"Hi What's your name" is the approach that Nikki from Spread (a good movie for pick up) uses and he ends up getting laid haha.

For direct approaches I would recommend looking into daygame.com .... Yad is really good with this stuff. I use something like this and It's worked a few time (I just started direct appraches)

"Excuse me, I know this is gonna sound kinda random, but I just noticed you walking past(pause).... and I had to tell you....(make pauses) that you got a really nice sense of style. It's elegant."

After the Thanks, I start making assumptions of where she's from and then the rest happens in the moment.

note that most girls won't know what to say and they will want to eject, because it's too much tension for them to handle... but the key is to plow through.

like...if she wants to leave I say "Don't let a friendly hi go to waste, stop and talk to me. I gotta go leave in a couple minutes anyway"
Author:  chill46 [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:39 pm ]
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Quote:
"Hi What's your name" is the approach that Nikki from Spread (a good movie for pick up) uses and he ends up getting laid haha.

For direct approaches I would recommend looking into daygame.com .... Yad is really good with this stuff. I use something like this and It's worked a few time (I just started direct appraches)

"Excuse me, I know this is gonna sound kinda random, but I just noticed you walking past(pause).... and I had to tell you....(make pauses) that you got a really nice sense of style. It's elegant."

After the Thanks, I start making assumptions of where she's from and then the rest happens in the moment.

note that most girls won't know what to say and they will want to eject, because it's too much tension for them to handle... but the key is to plow through.

like...if she wants to leave I say "Don't let a friendly hi go to waste, stop and talk to me. I gotta go leave in a couple minutes anyway"
I practice direct daygame on a college campus and ^^ this is the truth about it. remember that no opener will work if the girl is not listening to you. So the first key to making the opener effective is to make sure the girl is listening.

I make sure she is listening to me by using what is called the Yad stop. The Yad stop is when the girl is walking and you need to get her to stop. i approach girls by jogging past them and then turning around and block their path and make a stop motion with your hands.

heres a effective direct opener that i practice and got results with. Do the yad stop to make sure the girl is listening. Then I say " excuse me, I dont want to be wierd or anything, but..................." from here all i did was shut up and look directly in her eyes. I find 5-10 seconds of silence is golden but you can go for more

You can see and feel the tension building between you and the girl. she is usually just waiting their for you to say something. I act like its something difficult for me to say and then when i want to release the tension i say "i just thought you were cute and i need to chat you up/ i need to meet you."

to get into a actually conversation though I use asumptions aboutt the girl. and then i spend time trying to find out who she is as a person. and just like the above guy said many girls WILL NOT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND AND TRY TO GET AWAY FROM YOU. This teaches you just have to plow thru it. Practice saying " just one more thing before you go" and continue with a assumption
Author:  chill46 [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Direct Openers
Quote:
Hi fellow PUAs.
Ive come to a conclusion that i dont like canned openers at all, i hat them. Especially opinion-openers. I feel that with direct openers you could increase the sexual tension much better and they require less time.
The problem, however, is that i cant come up with any besides the ones i already have. I kindly ask you guys to post your best direct openers, and with direct i dont mean "Your cute", "Hey sexy, me, you, toilet, now!", "Lets fuck". They should be smart and lead into a conversation where you can use routines and such.
Sorry for the wall of text :lol:

Best Regards,
Slegee
From practice i dont believe that direct openers necessarily increase the sexual tension. Its more like they set the frame of where the interaction is headed. I found that the best way to increase that sexual tension is thru eye contact

Remember that direct openers are not the 100% rejection proof approach. What they are 100% effective at is filtering girls who are not into or have a boyfriend. Many times after i have opened direct i received the I have a boyfriend response. What direct does is makes sure you dont waste 30+ mins of conversation with a girl only to find out she has a boyfriend at the end.

You find out right away if you have a shot with this girl.
Author:  AFC_Suave [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:08 am ]
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Quote:
Quote:
"Hi What's your name" is the approach that Nikki from Spread (a good movie for pick up) uses and he ends up getting laid haha.

For direct approaches I would recommend looking into daygame.com .... Yad is really good with this stuff. I use something like this and It's worked a few time (I just started direct appraches)

"Excuse me, I know this is gonna sound kinda random, but I just noticed you walking past(pause).... and I had to tell you....(make pauses) that you got a really nice sense of style. It's elegant."

After the Thanks, I start making assumptions of where she's from and then the rest happens in the moment.

note that most girls won't know what to say and they will want to eject, because it's too much tension for them to handle... but the key is to plow through.

like...if she wants to leave I say "Don't let a friendly hi go to waste, stop and talk to me. I gotta go leave in a couple minutes anyway"
I practice direct daygame on a college campus and ^^ this is the truth about it. remember that no opener will work if the girl is not listening to you. So the first key to making the opener effective is to make sure the girl is listening.

I make sure she is listening to me by using what is called the Yad stop. The Yad stop is when the girl is walking and you need to get her to stop. i approach girls by jogging past them and then turning around and block their path and make a stop motion with your hands.

heres a effective direct opener that i practice and got results with. Do the yad stop to make sure the girl is listening. Then I say " excuse me, I dont want to be wierd or anything, but..................." from here all i did was shut up and look directly in her eyes. I find 5-10 seconds of silence is golden but you can go for more

You can see and feel the tension building between you and the girl. she is usually just waiting their for you to say something. I act like its something difficult for me to say and then when i want to release the tension i say "i just thought you were cute and i need to chat you up/ i need to meet you."

to get into a actually conversation though I use asumptions aboutt the girl. and then i spend time trying to find out who she is as a person. and just like the above guy said many girls WILL NOT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND AND TRY TO GET AWAY FROM YOU. This teaches you just have to plow thru it. Practice saying " just one more thing before you go" and continue with a assumption
That's pretty much it. This direct approach doesn't necessarily creates more attraction, but a lot of the girls get flattered...some even blush - which a waay better reaction that you get from indirect. A direct approach like this gives you value. the girl will acknowledge that you have balls.

Plowing through though DOES create attraction...since it shows that you're decisive, persisent, and doesn't give up quickly.

Chill46, I'm gonna have to try that approach haha.
Author:  Carlos Rodriguez [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Direct Openers
Quote:
Hi fellow PUAs.
Ive come to a conclusion that i dont like canned openers at all, i hat them. Especially opinion-openers. I feel that with direct openers you could increase the sexual tension much better and they require less time.
The problem, however, is that i cant come up with any besides the ones i already have. I kindly ask you guys to post your best direct openers, and with direct i dont mean "Your cute", "Hey sexy, me, you, toilet, now!", "Lets fuck". They should be smart and lead into a conversation where you can use routines and such.
Sorry for the wall of text :lol:

Best Regards,
Slegee
I get what you're saying, but I've found that opinionopeners (best to come up with your own and not the canny ones in the books, maybe even ones that you actually want an opinion on) are more effective, because the girl thinks you actualy want to converse rather than pick her up. I always use opinion openers about things i genuinely want opinions about, simply out of interest. If it's genuine you'll come accross as genuine and it frequently escalates into interesting chats. If you want it to go futher you gotta have other material at the ready.
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