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Author:  Blargh [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Help! Fail to maintain eye contact
Hi, so I was at a club the other day and saw this really cute HB9.
She kept looking my way but every time she did so I failed to look her in the eyes and just looked away.

I guess I was to nervous to do something after the smile, like wave her over to my table and tell her "hey, I saw you looking at me and I thought I wanted to get to know you" or something.

I was too much of a pussy to open her at her table because of all the girls and guys sitting with her.

Can anyone give me any tips about maintaining eye contact or what I should have done?

What happens if I see her again? Is it already to late for me since I didn't do anything the first time?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! :)
Author:  Giacomo Casanova [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help! Fail to maintain eye contact
If you find looking her right in the eye daring, you should look in between her eyes, try that. Smile after like 3-4 seconds or you might creep them out. You can wink and do other things with your eyes playfully. You can even seduce a women with good eye contact.

I think you should work on you AA, learn how to open..
Get rid of the fear of approaching women.

I think it would help if you think and believe yourself to be more dominant or high status than her. I didn't say prove to other people that you're high standard, it's a trick I use when I find real serpentine beauties walking in the street or at the bus station etc.. Prove to yourself that you're high status. Say it a few times. Like 'Come on, I can do this. I can look at her, I'm better than her. I'm more valuable than her' to yourself. Who do you think is more valuable to you - Her or yourself? And do you loose anything having eye contact with her. NO.. Do you get any? YEAH! Her attention.. It's a human nature, when someone looks at you than normal. You ask yourself; why is he looking at me? You get her attention and you're on her mind. Don't forget to smile and Don't freak or scare her off. Good LUCK mate.
Author:  Owlex [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:10 pm ]
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Just don't care.

The only people who are really going to notice/care about you two making eyes are the pair of you. If it happens again, treat it like a game. Don't break eye contact, don't smile just lock eye contact. Either:

- She maintains the contact. You might as well walk over and ravage her there. She wants you to.

- She breaks the contact quickly. You go over. Then you open her.

- She breaks the contact slowly. You look slightly away from her, wait for her to look at you again and then catch her eyes in the act. Then you open her.

Its honestly not possible to be blown out by looking at someone, but if some girl actually has a worked out a way of doing it I would walk over to her and congratulate her. Then I would open her.
Author:  PatrickAnanda [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help! Fail to maintain eye contact
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Hi, so I was at a club the other day and saw this really cute HB9.
She kept looking my way but every time she did so I failed to look her in the eyes and just looked away.

I guess I was to nervous to do something after the smile, like wave her over to my table and tell her "hey, I saw you looking at me and I thought I wanted to get to know you" or something.

I was too much of a pussy to open her at her table because of all the girls and guys sitting with her.

Can anyone give me any tips about maintaining eye contact or what I should have done?

What happens if I see her again? Is it already to late for me since I didn't do anything the first time?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! :)
Eye contact is something I had a lot of trouble with and is one of the MOST important aspects of game. You can seduce a girl with eye contact alone. Isnt that a wonderful superpower you would like to possess?

Unfortunately for you there is no easy answer. When a girl looks at you and you lower your eyes, you immediately lost her. You sub-communicated lower value in a heartbeat and she no longer respects you as a man.

Understand: a woman can NEVER be attracted to a man she does not respect. Re read this as many times as you need to, to internalize this concept.

Exercise time! Go out to the mall, dont talk to anyone, just focus on making eye contact and smiling. THATS ALL. Be it a man, a woman, old or young, go make eye contact. Train your brain to not allow your eyes to lower. I still catch myself doing this sometimes and its not good.

The bright side is that once you get good at this, half the work is done. I had a girl walk up from her dinner table, cross the room, and approach me in front of 4 of my guy friends during dinner, all because we shared a silent moment of eye contact + a smile. True story.

Good luck, I want to know how you're progressing, so PM me or keep posting here

Love and lots of it
TheMack
Author:  Giacomo Casanova [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:03 pm ]
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Don't break eye contact, don't smile just lock eye contact. Either:



I honestly believe that looking at someone for like more than 4 seconds and not smiling may is gonna creepy the receptor. She might feel uncomfortable 'cause she finds a guy just staring at her. And look away. If you smile, your game will be easier.
Author:  Owlex [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:16 pm ]
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Don't break eye contact, don't smile just lock eye contact. Either:



I honestly believe that looking at someone for like more than 4 seconds and not smiling may is gonna creepy the receptor. She might feel uncomfortable 'cause she finds a guy just staring at her. And look away. If you smile, your game will be easier.
There is a balance. Smiling incorrectly can be just as harmful as not smiling at all (Imagine a goofy grin from across the bar). I think either works depending on whether you're going for edgy serious game or cocky funny etc.
Author:  Giacomo Casanova [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:26 pm ]
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There is a balance. Smiling incorrectly can be just as harmful as not smiling at all (Imagine a goofy grin from across the bar). I think either works depending on whether you're going for edgy serious game or cocky funny etc.
Well staring at her is even worse bro. She might even think why is that asshole looking at me like I'm his dinner. A confident smile, not grinding. Smiling is seen positive. Smile is a frame. There are lots of books written about how smile can change a lot of thing.

A smiling person is often seen as a guy having his shit together, unlike a guy who just stares and not smile.

When you smile at people, they smile too. I bet you know mirroring. When they smile back at you, they feel sorta positive energy surrounding you. It's even a great Frame.

I agree with you. Grinning like a goof is a turn off. Any idiot would know that.
Author:  Owlex [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:58 am ]
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There is a balance. Smiling incorrectly can be just as harmful as not smiling at all (Imagine a goofy grin from across the bar). I think either works depending on whether you're going for edgy serious game or cocky funny etc.
Well staring at her is even worse bro. 
I never said stare, I said lock eye contact. You can lock eye contact with a girl and not look like a sexual predator - without smiling.

I'm not saying that smiling doesn't work, because I know that it does. But it's not the only way, and I find that going for a slightly darker game attracts the girls that I prefer.
Author:  silverito [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:37 am ]
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When you smile at people, they smile too. I bet you know mirroring. When they smile back at you, they feel sorta positive energy surrounding you. It's even a great Frame.
Ok so are you saying that if you smile and she smiles back it does not mean that she likes you, it just means that they are mirroring you?
Author:  silverito [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help! Fail to maintain eye contact
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Hi, so I was at a club the other day and saw this really cute HB9.
She kept looking my way but every time she did so I failed to look her in the eyes and just looked away.

I guess I was to nervous to do something after the smile, like wave her over to my table and tell her "hey, I saw you looking at me and I thought I wanted to get to know you" or something.

I was too much of a pussy to open her at her table because of all the girls and guys sitting with her.

Can anyone give me any tips about maintaining eye contact or what I should have done?

What happens if I see her again? Is it already to late for me since I didn't do anything the first time?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! :)
Eye contact is something I had a lot of trouble with and is one of the MOST important aspects of game. You can seduce a girl with eye contact alone. Isnt that a wonderful superpower you would like to possess?

Unfortunately for you there is no easy answer. When a girl looks at you and you lower your eyes, you immediately lost her. You sub-communicated lower value in a heartbeat and she no longer respects you as a man.

Understand: a woman can NEVER be attracted to a man she does not respect. Re read this as many times as you need to, to internalize this concept.

Exercise time! Go out to the mall, dont talk to anyone, just focus on making eye contact and smiling. THATS ALL. Be it a man, a woman, old or young, go make eye contact. Train your brain to not allow your eyes to lower. I still catch myself doing this sometimes and its not good.
How do you train to break eye contact - to look away right/left or to look away up? instead of looking away low that is.
Author:  silverito [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:02 pm ]
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