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What's a better inderect opener out of these 2!?
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Author:  yeeaabuddy [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  What's a better inderect opener out of these 2!?

I know a lot of people think indirect is for pussy's but I'm only doing for now cause I'm a newbie. My first one is "Hey I got to go in a sec but just out of curiousity do you think it's alright for a guy to wear cover up? After she replies I say the reason I'm asking is cause My friend has a date but he has really bad acne so I told him to wear some coverup but he think it's to girly". I've field tested that 4 times so four and haven't got any negative responses yet. The next is one I haven't used yet and I would say "Hey I need a female opinion on something real quick, would you rather break up with someone in person or over the phone?". If someone can give me some pointers on how to improve one of these openers and what one they think is better for day game at a bookstore then that would be awesome, thanks.

Author:  detox75 [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:48 am ]
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I don't think indirect for day game is for pussys, it just doesn't work very well compared to direct

Author:  Chai [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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Direct is way better for day game. It has a more "natural" aspect to it. But,
if you're wanting my honest answer for those 2 indirect...I wouldn't choose
either of them, especially at a club. Say for example you see the chick
from the other side of the club for example and you open her and
ask the Makeup opener, her first though would be "He
came all the way from the other side of the club to get my
opinion? He must be hitting on me..."

To me, indirect is dying slowly despite it's popularity but it
is so over-used by so many people in the clubs and the
noobs in the community it's getting increasingly
harder for those openers to be used on girls
who haven't heard them yet. Alot of people don't
vary these things and thats why
girls catch onto the routines. If you
continue to use the same line, in the same clubs
you're bound to meet a girl who heard that line in THAT
same club. Next thing that girl will tell her friends and etc...
then that line will become stock until it can be used after
a few months have passed.

If you
go direct you will convey more "genuineness"
to her and that can be the one key element that
could probably be the make or break in the routine.
Believe it or not, girls can tell when you're bullshitting
them or being pretentious in someway. Not that
i'm saying those openers don't work, but, if
you want to do them you've got to be
real genuine in the deliver and show
the chick you're for real about
her answer...

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