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Author:  0uch [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Loud clubs, how to game properly.
I know bunch of people are saying is hard to open in loud clubs. Is not. Only problem is, guys that use "mystery method" with bunch of routines and long openers are gonna be screwed. It's much more easier to go direct, and just start gaming your target.

1. Open, keep it short. I just say "whats up guys" to the whole group. Approach from the side, or position yourself next to your target right away.

2. Hopefully, your target is the first to respond, if not, you have work to cut out and just run social game and engage them both until your wing comes in. (hard in loud environment)

3. If your target respond first, act like you can't hear her speak. Pull her in by grabbing her lower back, and have her repeat herself. Let her go when she is done talking, and say what you have to say. Repeat this. It should slowly start building comfort to a point where you don't gotta do push/pull like that.

4. Her friend will just have to be ignored, but this is where the wing comes in and chats her up.

5. Don't lean in! High value guys do not lean in! Look around the club, guys are leaning in when the girl talks. This is bad! Be alpha and bring her to you.

Girls love to be touched! And loud clubs are perfect. Have good hygiene. Wear good cologne, wash your clothes, etc... Last thing a girl wants is to talk to a guy with bad hygiene. Don't run long routines or openers. Just have a normal conversation, but make it sexual with kino. Is not about what your saying, is about your behavior.
Author:  Suave7 [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:47 am ]
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but is"whats up guys" good enough to open? what if they just say, hey... and dont really want to talk to you or acknowledge you. nothing to keep them interested besides s & r value correct?
Author:  OptionX [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:31 am ]
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This is useful, as I'm in very loud clubs sometimes and it's definitely hard to run routines in this environment. Except, I like to build with kino and quick push-pull within the first minute just enough to ask, "It's really hard to hear you in here, would you like to take a break from dancing and talk in the lobbey/at the bar". It doesn't exactly have to be those words, but something similar to that so you can get some isolation and get an opportunity to run routines etc.

I do agree that the "leaning in" doesn't DHV, so pulling her in is very useful. I would just add that you should not look at her eyes/face when you pull her in. The more intimate it seems, then the more she will feel that you're wanting to only sleep with her. Keep it less intimate by looking away and pulling her in at the same time. It should feel as natural as possible. ;)
Author:  gregor [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:00 pm ]
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What do you guys think about approaching with like "wow nice moves, could you teach me that?" (if shes dancing ofcourse)
Author:  Andersonn [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:57 pm ]
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I do agree that the "leaning in" doesn't DHV, so pulling her in is very useful. I would just add that you should not look at her eyes/face when you pull her in. The more intimate it seems, then the more she will feel that you're wanting to only sleep with her. Keep it less intimate by looking away and pulling her in at the same time. It should feel as natural as possible. ;)

What's wrong with admitting you want to fuck her, it's not like you're there because you're attracted by her way of solving differential equations.

In a pub maybe there is room to play the "i'm here for your brains" game (don't know if that's really helpfull but ok), but in a club?
Author:  Amadieus [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:53 pm ]
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TC is right about a lot of things.

In club game its all about small chit chat and yes it DOES NOT matter with what u open aslong as u do it!
Its all about kino escalation and being sexuel (direct game).

Talking is there just not to make it that awkward.

Winging is also very important because u can't hold control on a 3 set or bigger for long due to the loudness.
It also depends on the girls though, sometimes her friends just let you 2 talk to each other while some other friends will cockblock elite.

A gaming tip: Keep ur eyes open for a guy(s) that talks to a girl from a set and in wich the other girl just stands waiting for her friend to be finished with the guy.
Author:  0uch [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:49 pm ]
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but is"whats up guys" good enough to open? what if they just say, hey... and dont really want to talk to you or acknowledge you. nothing to keep them interested besides s & r value correct?

LOL! your missing the point here. Loud clubs are not a good spot for long conversation. About 80 % of communication is done through body language and vocal tonality, 20 % is what you say. This is been proven by scientist who did not even study pick up.

Also, even in quit places, you can just open with anything like hi, whats up, hey, hello, etc...Have good energy and body language. Actually, opening is easy period. Anyone can open. Mid Game is where it gets rough.
Author:  OptionX [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:49 am ]
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I do agree that the "leaning in" doesn't DHV, so pulling her in is very useful. I would just add that you should not look at her eyes/face when you pull her in. The more intimate it seems, then the more she will feel that you're wanting to only sleep with her. Keep it less intimate by looking away and pulling her in at the same time. It should feel as natural as possible. ;)

What's wrong with admitting you want to fuck her, it's not like you're there because you're attracted by her way of solving differential equations.

In a pub maybe there is room to play the "i'm here for your brains" game (don't know if that's really helpfull but ok), but in a club?
I think you're missing the point. If you flat out give the feeling that you're just there to fuck her, then what makes you different from the bafoons who try to rub their cocks on the girls on the dance floors from behind? This is almost as literal as a 'cold approach', which is very low in success.

I agree, you're obviously there to pick her up and show her a good time in bed, but girls like to play some back-and-forth and tease. If you go straight for the dessert before nibbling the appetizer or masticating your main dish, then you'll spoil your appetite (and hers). Haha
Author:  0uch [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:50 pm ]
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I do agree that the "leaning in" doesn't DHV, so pulling her in is very useful. I would just add that you should not look at her eyes/face when you pull her in. The more intimate it seems, then the more she will feel that you're wanting to only sleep with her. Keep it less intimate by looking away and pulling her in at the same time. It should feel as natural as possible. ;)

What's wrong with admitting you want to fuck her, it's not like you're there because you're attracted by her way of solving differential equations.

In a pub maybe there is room to play the "i'm here for your brains" game (don't know if that's really helpfull but ok), but in a club?
I think you're missing the point. If you flat out give the feeling that you're just there to fuck her, then what makes you different from the bafoons who try to rub their cocks on the girls on the dance floors from behind? This is almost as literal as a 'cold approach', which is very low in success.

I agree, you're obviously there to pick her up and show her a good time in bed, but girls like to play some back-and-forth and tease. If you go straight for the dessert before nibbling the appetizer or masticating your main dish, then you'll spoil your appetite (and hers). Haha


I agree, push/pull is money during cold approach.
Author:  OptionX [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:54 am ]
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but is"whats up guys" good enough to open? what if they just say, hey... and dont really want to talk to you or acknowledge you. nothing to keep them interested besides s & r value correct?

LOL! your missing the point here. Loud clubs are not a good spot for long conversation. About 80 % of communication is done through body language and vocal tonality, 20 % is what you say. This is been proven by scientist who did not even study pick up.

Also, even in quit places, you can just open with anything like hi, whats up, hey, hello, etc...Have good energy and body language. Actually, opening is easy period. Anyone can open. Mid Game is where it gets rough.
I agree with you. Opening with just a "hi" isn't anything special. She's probably heard people say "hi" all night long. Spice things up and open with something unique. Mention something nice, or give her a neg (depending on who she's with and if she's a HB7 vs a HB10).
Author:  0uch [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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but is"whats up guys" good enough to open? what if they just say, hey... and dont really want to talk to you or acknowledge you. nothing to keep them interested besides s & r value correct?

LOL! your missing the point here. Loud clubs are not a good spot for long conversation. About 80 % of communication is done through body language and vocal tonality, 20 % is what you say. This is been proven by scientist who did not even study pick up.

Also, even in quit places, you can just open with anything like hi, whats up, hey, hello, etc...Have good energy and body language. Actually, opening is easy period. Anyone can open. Mid Game is where it gets rough.
I agree with you. Opening with just a "hi" isn't anything special. She's probably heard people say "hi" all night long. Spice things up and open with something unique. Mention something nice, or give her a neg (depending on who she's with and if she's a HB7 vs a HB10).

funny thing is I open with "Hi" or "hello" all the time, but I will follow up with something clever. So you can open with hi. I should add, I am talking about really loud clubs here. If is really loud club, is better just to find Down to fuck girls then to game properly, set up day 2, etc...
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