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Author:  Elitekm [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Alcohol and sarging alone.
I'm gonna be sarging solo tomorrow night and im wondering if I should drink much. When going out on my own I tend to find it hard to open, thinking alcohol might bridge that gap.

Thoughts?
Author:  tippicanoe [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:24 pm ]
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Yes alcohol makes your AA go away because your inhibitions go away and I have noticed I have a tendency to do some crazy and/or stupid stuff when drunk. I have done things like high five a girl and then just swing my hand down and slap her ass, within two minutes of meeting her, or say really rude insults that are intended as negs but don't come out that way. I now take negs out of your vocabulary for drunk game, I probably do them on accident without even trying. My AA also completely disappears and I can get drunk googles where I am sure I am going for girls I normally wouldn't in ways I normally wouldn't. Me during day game and me during night game are two completely different PUA's. It always leaves me the saying "I can't believe that happened last night". Actually looking back on it not that bad overall. Don't get throw up drunk cause that is no fun anytime but anywhere below that is okay. Just feeling a buzz would be the right level for me. Really based on person to person though, I have no idea how you act drunk. Oh and I always end up approaching alone, so I can't answer that half.
Author:  Vaako [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:17 am ]
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First of all girls hate drunk guys. That's why when I'm going out with friends to have some buzz I know there will be no PUA. Ye like said tippicanoe alco breaks AA but it isn't that helpful, coz you're not controlling your sences and behavior properly. Just have like 1 or 2 drinks and that's ok. Or you can even get some DHV drinks - like champagne or so. There is many fun games or stories/openers you can use while approaching with glass. But remember to do not hold your glass in fron of you - bad body language. Hold it like near your belt and be comfiortable with that
Author:  detox75 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:26 am ]
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like Vaako says your going to be better off in the long run if you don't use drinks as a crutch to help your game. In the long run drinking is going to retard your progress as a PUA.
Author:  kupo [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:39 pm ]
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I've found that, as a general rule, while maybe a drink or two can be fairly helpful in the long run (dutch courage, that kind of effect) it's really only going to negatively impact your game. If you're coming across as some drunk idiot, you're instantly lowering your value. Not to mention the negative impact it'll have on your routines, and the danger of turning a playful neg into a hurtful comment without you being aware of the fact.

The last thing you need when your sarging is having to watch yourself so closely that you cant focus on what you ought to be doing. Plus, I bet everyone here can remember watching some drunk idiot making a fool of himself in front of a HB, the last thing you need is to be that guy, or have other sets thinking of you as that guy.
Author:  Gaia_16 [ Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:28 pm ]
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Hey man as everybody says iits fine having a few drinks to overcome AA, I have done it myself. BUT a friend of mine once told me that whle sarging you MUST be aware of your targets reactions! Body language, the way she talks etc. And doing that is kind of hard if you're too drunk so try to moderate and drink less every time until you are able to sarge sober! ;)
Author:  ArKiTeCk [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:50 am ]
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Alcohol does reduce AA quite a bit, but you will make alot of Body language mistakes. Used to happen to me when i'd get drunk.
Author:  Echoplay [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:00 am ]
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Alcohol does reduce AA quite a bit, but you will make alot of Body language mistakes. Used to happen to me when i'd get drunk.
Not only that, but if you can't conquer your fear w/o drinking then what happens when you run into a HB daygame? Just a thought, lol
Author:  Stand Up [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:08 am ]
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I drink every time I go out, and pick up every time I go out. It's true, getting blind drunk isn't a good idea, but drinking is a social convention and one that is not worth fighting. I have never attempted to cut out drinking and never felt my game was hindered by being a drinker.
Author:  Stand Up [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:13 am ]
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oh and just a side note on being drunk lowering your value. What do you notice about every "Alpha Male" in the club, he's drunk and bitches love him. What do you notice about famous rakes and rockstars....they're drunk. Errol Flynn, John Barrymore, Frank Sinatra, Steven Tyler, Charlie Sheen......Alcoholics. What were their fathers like. More often than not drinkers.

DO NOT BUY INTO THIS MYSTERY INSPIRED BULLSHIT ABOUT ALCOHOL LOWERING VALUE!
Author:  R.C [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:01 am ]
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Alcohol does lower value. 1-2 drinks - fine. More than that and you will be shut down by anything higher than HB6.


@Stand Up : You do realize the fact that Sinatra Sheen and all the others have this major advantage of having shitloads of money and fame,right ?
Author:  Stand Up [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:20 am ]
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Alcohol does lower value. 1-2 drinks - fine. More than that and you will be shut down by anything higher than HB6.


@Stand Up : You do realize the fact that Sinatra Sheen and all the others have this major advantage of having shitloads of money and fame,right ?
yes I do, but I also know that Errol Flynn was an alcoholic and expelled from school aged 12. Don't think he was famous then.

Alcohol does not lower value, being a dickhead does. If you can be blind drunk and maintain frame, it isn't doing shit. Most guys can't, and that does lower value, but if you are capable (like myself) of being drunk and cool, calm and collected it isn't a problem.

BTW HB6 or above? If you're a drunk moron it won't matter how hot she is, it will matter about her reaction to that type of behaviour. Stop making rules, there aren't any.
Author:  Choco [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:14 am ]
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You can get the girl even if you are drunk (I've done it), but you won't enjoy it while making out with her and it won't turn you on. So what's the point?

Recently I discovered a new phone number in my agenda, checked when it was added -3 weeks ago, when I got too drunk. I could not remember her at all, it could have been a drac queen lol. And I also discovered I photographied a couple girls, WTF when did I meet them...
Author:  T_Rex [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:46 pm ]
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I don't think you should get drunk, my friend! Sarging out alone is harder, but if you wanna work on your inner game, its better to Sarge without any medium. Do YOU wanna get good at gaming, or does your DRUNK YOU wanna get good, cuz my friend you won't be drunk all your life. Don't take the easy way out of AA, cuz ultimately it won't make your AA weaker. You without alcohol is the weakest link on your chain, work hard on that one, once you've gained experience do whatever you like. But starting out, you need to develop your own mindsets without getting drunk. It is NOT true dat the Alpha Male of the party is always drunk and surrounded with alcohol. The alpha male is the one who puts everyone in the party ambiance and you can be that guy without being drunk. Ultimately not trusting yourself without any alcohol is the most BETA thing you can do.
When i go out, i usually take a beer or two, and if its hard liquor i take 1 drink.
i know its a bit late, but i hope i helped.
Author:  timer [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:44 am ]
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Choco, it sounds as if you might have to cut back. But anyway,
I would never go out to sarge alone and drink more than 2-3 drinks. I know I start to lose my self awarness after that. In a group, I just drink, but I know as the night moves on and I drink more, my game starts to SUCK....
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