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Author:  Ezo [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  When peacocking turns on you
Hi guys,

HELP!
I have a problem, the thing is that I can run normal game (A1-A2-A3-C1... etc) but sometimes I don´t know where to start.
I have this awesome peacocking T-shirt and girls open me, this confuses me. If a HB comes up to me, starts caressing my T-shirt, where am I (in A3? in C1?). Should I just skip A2? It feels like I'd get byers remorse without any attraction building.
Thankful for help.

Ezo
Author:  JSmooth [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  If a girl touches your shirt
When a girl comes up and opens you because of your peacocking then you are in A2. As soon as the opening is done you are pushed ahead to A2. Of course, most of this is situational but I would continue with A2 and then move on as needed.

Have fun and good luck!

J SMOOTH
Author:  Starbuck [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: When peacocking turns on you
Quote:
Hi guys,

HELP!
I have a problem, the thing is that I can run normal game (A1-A2-A3-C1... etc) but sometimes I don´t know where to start.
I have this awesome peacocking T-shirt and girls open me, this confuses me. If a HB comes up to me, starts caressing my T-shirt, where am I (in A3? in C1?). Should I just skip A2? It feels like I'd get byers remorse without any attraction building.
Thankful for help.

Ezo
:lol:

A2

Doesn't sound like much of a problem to me..

What does she do after she checks out your t-shirt and what are you doing? Are you using kino?

Moving? By putting your arm around here and leading her to a better place to get to know one another?

This is nothing more than an IOI. And a strong one at that. You should take advantage of it.

You build attraction in this situation with strong body language, smile and eye contact skills. Like you said basically she's opened you. This is clearly the easiest type of opening.

Once you get her isolated or get her full attention you can move into comfort building.
Author:  Marco Polo [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:20 pm ]
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LOL, I am willing to help you but you confused me with all this chess moves (A3, C1, A1, wtf). :D

I know those are some phases from MM but I am not much of a theory guy. It would help if you explanied the situation in normal words.
Author:  SirSlick [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:33 pm ]
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If a girl is complimenting on your peacocking, you're in A2. Now just DHV to show you have more going than your looks (sounds A3-ish :P). Then you go into A3.

Usually I get compliments on my style and I always have a canned response.
HB: I like your shirt/jeans.
PUA: Hey, just because you like it doesn't mean it's coming off! *SMILE*

Or if it's a accessory, like a necklace or bracelet, then I tell her a (fake) story on what it means to me or how I got it.
Author:  broke(TM) [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:29 pm ]
Post subject: 
Now I'm wondering, what does your t-shirt say?

I have one that says "I'm not undressing you with my eyes, I'm adding a sweater" which had girls open me. I'm going to use it more when I'm more confident about my game.

Mostly it goes as:
girl: (laugh's) Nice tshirt.
me: (looks down as not remembering what I'm wearing): ah, wel you're wearing <insert color and type of sweater here>
girl: why?
me (oh shit...) Uh it's what seems most natural on you.

and then i've lost her :p
Author:  Toolfan955 [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:49 pm ]
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Yep A2 is your time to DHV and your target's chance to give IOIs. Since she is already giving you IOIs (the most obvious of which being her approach) you can do a little DHV and then follow the conversation into A3 and beyond.

But I am also curious what the shirt is. I don't peacock and I'm interested in what works this well for people that do.
Author:  Ezo [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:35 am ]
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Well, I didn't really believe in peacocking either but this T is one that got a LED-equalizer thingy that reacts to sound. Looks awesome in a bar with moderately loud music, perfect music for sarging.
Sorry about the chess-moves I meant that I don't know if I am going to attract or make her prove herself before going further. What I have been doing so far is the old Mystery classic neg (Hands off the merchendise this shit aint for free). I think you guys are right DHV is probably the way to go from there...

Ezo
Author:  JSmooth [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Another Response
Another classic Mystery response to a girl opening you up with a compliment is saying, "You're attracted to me." because she just did something AFC and you are putting her in her place. Usually, get a deer in the head lights response.

Have fun and good luck!

J SMOOTH
Author:  Ka [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:45 pm ]
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I ran into this issue too the first night i went out after changing my physical appearence. I was opened by like 4 girls/sets in one night.

What i came to was that when they do this they are doing some of the work for you. They opened you, the worst of it (AA) is done away with...

However you still need to show them that you are the leader. Take the frame back with a comment like JSmooth suggested. Then maybe follow it up with the routine 3 qualities.

YOU: "Your attracted to me."

HB: "huh what blah."

YOU: "Your attractive...but, looks are not everlasting. There are plenty of beautiful women at this bar/club (just say whatever location your at look around too while you say it), what 3 qualities do you posses, aside from physical looks, that would make me want to talk to you instead of them?"

HB: "i have blah and blah..."

YOU: insert routine/cold reading/trick etc and countinue carrying the frame.

Remember when they come upto you they bring you into their frame...take the frame back, bring them into yours and run game the way you normally would. Dont worry about the structure of the M3 model, start off slightly after the opener part, maybe "stack" your opener after hers, then time constraint and DHV while tossing some negs.
Author:  JSmooth [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Thanks Ka
Ka is right on target here. Take the DHV response I suggested and go right into the routines. She's done the hard part and telegraphed interest in you. Just DHV, be interesting with your routines and questions. Remember to Neg the target.

Cheers!

J SMOOTH
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