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| Author: | slyder2412 [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What do you do when girl doesn't talk? |
Hey guys...there's a few girls that i can tell are attracted to me and walk up to me "to see what's going on". But when i try and have a conversation...i'm like 85% of the talking ..and the 15% is her just answering questions. I can DHV...but when a girl doesn't pick at the keywords in the stories, then the DHV only becomes a short story and no conversation to follow. Any tips? |
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| Author: | chadbaxter [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:22 pm ] |
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lol, same thing happened to me a few days ago with one girl. I am still unsure if she likes me. I was doing most of the talking and she would just answer with a few words. She sends me IOIs all the time... When she started boring me at the place we were at, I suggested we leave. We hugged (bf/gf kinda hug), said goodbye and went our ways. |
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| Author: | snubby (aka Zen) [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:13 pm ] |
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Sometimes that's just the way it goes. There are a few things you can do. 1) go ahead and do the bulk of the talking. 2) ask her more questions. when she answers with one or two words (or a grunt) remain silent, as though you're waiting for her to say more. Eventually she will. 3) do one of the many cold reading routines that will get her talking. The classic, of course, is the Cube. Keep making her describe everything in more and more detail. She will have to talk. Good luck. 
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| Author: | slyder2412 [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:22 am ] |
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I know what you mean...but isn't that a IOI on my behalf? Maybe later in the comfort stage i'd try to dig into her b/c i have then "selected" her. This just brings up another problem...when you initate the conversation ..how do you NOT make all the questions about her. Doing this too early has not landed me good results. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:30 am ] |
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Well you don't start acting like you're into her. You get her to talk about herself, while you listen and lead the conversation and demonstrate that you understand who she is by telling her stuff about herself. By doing that, you remain in control of the conversation and you remain dominant, but yeah, you do show a bit of an IOI. Showing IOIs isn't a bad thing though, you do want her to know you want to fuck her. |
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| Author: | wizardman [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:57 am ] |
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like snubby (aka Zen) said do COLD READINGS. and here's a line from Mystery when she doesn't talk: Hey look i'm enjoying this but you either have to commint to what i'm saying or go look at art. and, besides, with you standing there i'm gonna get my neck broken. |
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| Author: | slyder2412 [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:09 pm ] |
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Thanks for the replies guys! Wizard that line is actually from Juggler because i just read that story in the game about 10 min ago haha. (coincidence) But that is something i'm defiantly going to use ...although..when is the best time to use something like that? Surely i can't blurt that out as we just meet or it will seem like an IOI too early. |
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| Author: | 3 hands [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:59 pm ] |
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Ask questions where she can't awnser with just 2 words. and go into stuff she likes. If she still doesn't talk say something like: Not really talkative are you? and without waiting for a reply just turn your back to her like there is something more interesting to see there. |
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| Author: | Thompson1772 [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What To Say |
Yo man, I used to have this problem all the time. First I had "question trains" where I'd just roll off one question after another. Then once I learned about speaking from the I perspective that helped, but i began to relate too much. Here's the secret: you want to share a little bit of yourself, but try to relate it back to her on VALUES. So let's say you ask a girl what her hobbies are (not the best question but whatever) and she says she likes to go shopping. First, you'll want to qualify her a little bit. You: So are you a window shopper or a credit card splurger? Her: Haha, Oh I'll spend some money when I need to. Maybe too much sometimes. Now you could relate on values to her. You: Nice, a girl who knows what she wants. See, I think you can get into trouble going through the world and never being impulsive. Her: That's my philosophy. Now qualify her again You: What's a time in your life when that's played out outside of Saks? Or you could hop into a role play if she gives you a better answer. You: Nice, a girl who knows what she wants. See, I think you can get into trouble going through the world and never being impulsive. Her: Yeah totally. Like who wants to live a boring life with no credit cards and no risks. You: Ok that's it. We're going to go apply for a joint AmEx account and see who can ring up more debt. But you realize we'll have to pretend to be spouses. Just don't get any ideas, I have pretty shallow pockets and you're not going to get much out of a settlement. So the basic structure here is qualifying, then relating on values, then either qualifying again or rewarding her with a game or something else fun. The alternative in relating would be relating on experiences i.e. "Yeah I remember a time when I was shopping at Nordstroms and there was this outfit that was totally out of my price range. But I had to buy it anyway, because I knew it'd never be around again." But that comes across as too try-hard and rapport seeking. Maybe good for low-value girls but with most girls you'll get blown outta the wata with shit like that. Hope this helps. |
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| Author: | Toolfan955 [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:16 pm ] |
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If you can't quite get her to open up just do something like "This is boring, lets play a game..." and then go into something like thumb-wrestling, or five truths and a lie, or any other playful routine. This should get her to open up a little more, at least for a little while. |
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