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Author:  Alex Gray [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:38 pm ]
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so I was hanging out with this girl, she showed some IOI and I was using some first level kino we exchanged facebook and what not when suddenly she seems to be avoiding me lately (the last 2 days, in english class she she went to work rather, so since I'm a noob at this I was wondering how to proceed from there

Author:  kaala [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:18 pm ]
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work the logistics out!

Author:  Alex Gray [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:30 am ]
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work the logistics out!
like how, I'm sorry I ask this but I'm a noob, also to expand she seems to have a BF, my luck just keeps getting better.

Author:  JohnnyMagic86 [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:27 am ]
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Move on.... Plenty more quality ladies to keep you company.

Author:  Alex Gray [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:40 am ]
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Move on.... Plenty more quality ladies to keep you company.
ditto. although is the second time it happens and it seems like always someone outpace me is anywhere where I could discuss my game and improve it, or a reading? I mean I kinda ran out of HB to go for

Author:  JohnnyMagic86 [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:56 am ]
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Most likely one of two things are happening.
1. she has a boyfriend that you are not going to blowout
2. you didn't build enough attraction

Either way you should just sharpen your game as to not let this keep happening.

Author:  Alex Gray [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:17 am ]
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Most likely one of two things are happening.
1. she has a boyfriend that you are not going to blowout
2. you didn't build enough attraction

Either way you should just sharpen your game as to not let this keep happening.
thanks :)

Author:  kaala [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:42 am ]
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work the logistics out!
like how, I'm sorry I ask this but I'm a noob, also to expand she seems to have a BF, my luck just keeps getting better.
how? work out where you can spend time with her and move to a private place for some intimacy easily. if you have that sorted out, nothing stops you.
i advice you to focus on meeting as many women as possible instead of focusing on just one.

Author:  kaala [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:44 am ]
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work the logistics out!
like how, I'm sorry I ask this but I'm a noob, also to expand she seems to have a BF, my luck just keeps getting better.
how? work out where you can spend time with her and move to a private place for some intimacy easily. if you have that sorted out, nothing stops you.
i advice you to focus on meeting as many women as possible instead of focusing on just one.

Author:  NaturalE [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:31 pm ]
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Hi Alex,

From what you have given, it seems to have a gap in the timeline. What happened during this 2 day period?

Johnny is right though, if she has a BF or says she does, dont persue (either not enough value demonstration or she does have a BF). Who knows, you meet someone else, she sees you with her and BAM, jealousy plotline (amazingly powerful as im sure we all have experienced it ourselves).

for future reference though; if you wanted to see her again you needed to establish a reason for the contact details swap or it makes no sense.

if you were not attracted to a girl and she asks for your number, you wouldnt want to give it. If the same girl and you both love volleyball and she says cool lets swap numbers so i can kick your ass at volleyball, you will swap numbers.

do you see what i mean? by doing this contact details swap without reason; you gave the game away.

it sounded like (i hate mentioning this) mid stage of comfort that you were in (were, not any more, you would have to build it up again).

but as Johnny said, move on.

Author:  bansario [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:50 pm ]
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so I was hanging out with this girl, she showed some IOI and I was using some first level kino we exchanged facebook and what not when suddenly she seems to be avoiding me lately (the last 2 days, in english class she she went to work rather, so since I'm a noob at this I was wondering how to proceed from there
I always advice my friends and students not to add women on facebook right off the bat. Facebook can be a trap, and I learned it a long time ago (the hard way). When a woman adds you on facebook, she will automatically check everything in there, and make all kinds of assumptions about you.

Some assumptions can be good, but in general, they are misleading. For instance, if they see a couple of pics of you drinking, she might think you are somewhat of an alcoholic. If she sees that you interact with a lot of women, she might think you are a player...etc.

Keep your privacy and overall mystery, and refrain yourself from disclosing too much information about you at early stages of the game. Women will actually like it, cause they'll be intrigued about finding more about you.

Also, if she has a boyfriend, as mentioned earlier, she may not want too much interaction with you online. You might incriminate her, and ruin something important (at least for her boyfriend lol).

Good luck champ. :)

Author:  idomiralin [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:38 am ]
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Man, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Seem disinterested in her a few times and then show interest again and flirt with her. Like this you build uncertainty, that is very challenging. She doesn't know if you like her or not and she will want to find out. Show high standards and don't hang on one girl. For more information about dating, inner-game, visit http://seduceandattract.blogspot.com/.

Author:  Alex Gray [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:02 pm ]
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work the logistics out!
like how, I'm sorry I ask this but I'm a noob, also to expand she seems to have a BF, my luck just keeps getting better.
how? work out where you can spend time with her and move to a private place for some intimacy easily. if you have that sorted out, nothing stops you.
i advice you to focus on meeting as many women as possible instead of focusing on just one.
oh I normally meet a lot of girls, for example I talk to every girl in my class excluding two new girls who just recently came into my class, both sort of the quite type, the problem tho. is that I don't do it with a whole bunch of then at once unless we are already in a group for whatever reason.
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so I was hanging out with this girl, she showed some IOI and I was using some first level kino we exchanged facebook and what not when suddenly she seems to be avoiding me lately (the last 2 days, in english class she she went to work rather, so since I'm a noob at this I was wondering how to proceed from there
I always advice my friends and students not to add women on facebook right off the bat. Facebook can be a trap, and I learned it a long time ago (the hard way). When a woman adds you on facebook, she will automatically check everything in there, and make all kinds of assumptions about you.

Some assumptions can be good, but in general, they are misleading. For instance, if they see a couple of pics of you drinking, she might think you are somewhat of an alcoholic. If she sees that you interact with a lot of women, she might think you are a player...etc.

Keep your privacy and overall mystery, and refrain yourself from disclosing too much information about you at early stages of the game. Women will actually like it, cause they'll be intrigued about finding more about you.

Also, if she has a boyfriend, as mentioned earlier, she may not want too much interaction with you online. You might incriminate her, and ruin something important (at least for her boyfriend lol).

Good luck champ. :)
thank man, I will also make this part of my game

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Man, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Seem disinterested in her a few times and then show interest again and flirt with her. Like this you build uncertainty, that is very challenging. She doesn't know if you like her or not and she will want to find out. Show high standards and don't hang on one girl. For more information about dating, inner-game, visit http://seduceandattract.blogspot.com/.
I will make that part of my game, and thanks for the link I'm checking it out now


thanks guys you are helping me refine my game :D

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