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Author:  Lifelike [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:33 am ]
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Hey guys, a while ago I read something (forgot where or who) about kiss opening where you literally just stroll up to a girl and kiss her, and THEN say hi/open or whatever.

I've done this a couple of times in a club but that was after some eye-fucking across the room.

Has anyone done this straight up? Or in a non-club situation?

Author:  Ch1mera [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:24 pm ]
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In the clubs we have here, the music is way too loud to even get a few words out on the dance floor so in that setting I just go in for the kiss straight away and just make out if I see IOIs. Out of a club setting I definitely wouldn't recommend this as an opener - the SPAM in a club is totally different to that in day game. You're just going to look like a total creep.

Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:41 pm ]
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Yeah, you can definitely open girls by kissing them sometimes. Like, I used to do stuff where I high five a girl and then pull her right in and make out with her, but honestly doing stuff like that looks a lot cooler than it really is. I can tell you from personal experience and from the experience of my wingman and students that MOST times that you make out with a girl too early (i.e within the first few minutes), you will end up getting buyers remorse from the girl and she'll start to feel weird and you'll be left with nothing but a quick makeout and no lay. Of course this isn't always the case, but a large majority of the time it is. The reason is because you haven't had enough time to qualify her or validate her in anyway and her "antislut defense" starts to kick in. Just the other night, a friend of mine made out with 3 girls at a bar (all within about 3 or 4 mintues of meeting them) but he went home empty handed. I made out with ONE girl (after about 10 minutes after meeting her) but I went home with her and got laid.

Bottom line: kissing girls on the opener or super quick looks cool, but its really not and its a waste of time if you actually want to get laid.

Author:  Lifelike [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:12 pm ]
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Good posts guys, makes perfect sense!

Author:  *FlaiR* [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:49 am ]
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I simply would not approach a girl, kiss her and than say hi.. it just doesn't even make sense. A true women of beauty will not tolerate a random man walking across the room and just starting kissing her out of nowhere and saying hi afterwards. Like the PUA above me said.. it's important that you qualify, build rapport and most importantly, build solid attraction in order to go from opening location to sex location or even going towards a commited relationship. "An amateur (AFC) will hit on a girl right away. A pick up artist will wait at least 5 or 10 minutes before he begins flirting. The girl did nothing special to you. She does not deserve to be hit on by such a valued male like you." - MYSTERY line

Hope I helped.. good luck in field mate!

Author:  Mr-Rev [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:17 pm ]
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I agree with Valentyn, except 5-10 mins is waay too long, I like to kiss them before then, in club game, when already so close to each and kino should be escalating all the time, they will be thinking about it, OBVIOUSLY we would be. Just do it.

Rather than kiss then say hi, I might try that basic idea, and try and get a kiss within the first couple sentences. Cut them short and grab a kiss.

If they reject, oh well?

Author:  Lifelike [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:29 pm ]
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I still think thats a bit too early for a kiss now that I think about it. Like the others said, if she gives a kiss away too early she might regret it and up her anti-slut defense.

Kissing also breaks sexual tension and you want to build up as much as possible so she's literally tearing your clothes off by the time you isolate her.

This discussion has helped loads, thanks guys.

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