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Author:  PrivateGunner [ Thu May 19, 2011 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Need help with HB9! New member
Hey yall,

I am a new member who looks forward to being a part of this community. With this FB girl, I have opened with whoopie's opener and use Push and Pull theory which both I have read on this forum. as u can see i am going back and forth from nice and mean in each message

i am kinda blanking out what to type to her. I'd like to bone her when I get home in August because im in afghanistan deployed right now...

any help will be appreciated


PrivateGunner
Hey you know its not safe to poke strangers! I guess your parents never taught you that! :)

HB9
haha hey :) how ya been?

PrivateGunner
ive been well.. serving the people since 2009...
look at you.. still lookin gorgeous
well i think you were prettier before but
how are you these days? going to school?

HB9
thats so mean! so you're saying i got uglier? :( :( :( i'm actually in korea visiting my parents right now. its hard... being a full time daughter. haha i'm going back to la in a week though.

HB9
school is tough, i'm finally a senior this fall!!!! whooot whooot when are you coming back?

PrivateGunner
aww okay.. thats nice of you to give them a visit. im sure they were really glad 2 see their beautiful daughter all grown up. i know id be glad 2 see u

well i dont know if u are uglier but i remember u looked better wsup with that pink wig?

HB9
THAT HURTS!! that means i'm aging....... hahaha

PrivateGunner
hahaha well i guess with your agining came your amazin body though ;) looks like u sculpted them

what u do that for? lure them guys in like fishes huh?

HB9
haha only real men. ;)

PrivateGunner
lol ic...
so hows korea? haven't been there in fuckin ages

HB9
korea is great! the weather is perfect right now. when r u coming back to la? or are you in la already?
Author:  SiNfUl [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:22 pm ]
Post subject: 
PrivateGunner
ive been well.. serving the people since 2009...
look at you.. still lookin gorgeous
well i think you were prettier before but
how are you these days? going to school?

I love it!
Author:  mickeyjackson21 [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:30 pm ]
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i can see that you are using the push and pull technique in a regular pattern but i dont think that you are using it to your real advantage.

all of your negs and compliments are purely focused on her physical attributes and nothing about her personality which is what most guys do. negs are only supposed to be used on things which the girl can't emotionally detach herself from, but some negs on women's looks are small ones e.g. when you're checking out a girl's nails "wow these nails are nice, are they real?". women are extremely self conscious and put alot of effort into their looks, it was not cool saying that she looked ugly. you could have said that she looks abit different recently which is neither positive or negative.

think you might of made a lucky slip from the negative comments as the chick asked twice when you were coming back which you didnt answer. never the less it was risky and if you went even further with the negative comments she might think that you were an ass hole, which is not what a pua tries to do. a pua uses negs to be playful, teasing, flirtatious and increase their value above the chick's.
Author:  PrivateGunner [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:58 pm ]
Post subject: 
@sinful thanks for your reply bro! any tips u can give me?

@mickeyjackson21 thanks for your constructive criticism... it makes sense. even i myself felt that pushing and pulling with her physical attributes were not dat good of a way... two questions... how can i use push and pull with "things girls cant emotionally detach from"? and 2nd, how can i DHV on fb messages?

thanks.

ps. i honestly think i got lucky with "you used to be prettier" and "you looked better before" because she might be a ten i mean jesus christ...

thanks for all your inputs again
Author:  PrivateGunner [ Thu May 19, 2011 6:03 pm ]
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and also... what should i say next? can i just talk 2 her like a regular person? like

"well im in afghanistan right now but i should be back in august"

and while im using push and pull technique can i also use the "shock and awe" technique as well? like go on by saying...

"uggggh with these missions im so busy. i hate that i keep messaging you back but i can't help it. i mean jeez look at u..."

thanks
Author:  mickeyjackson21 [ Thu May 19, 2011 7:03 pm ]
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oppps sorry. what i meant to say was that negs are only supposed to be used on things which the girl CAN emotionally detach herself from e.g. a book or movie. BUT do not ever neg a girl when you're talking about something she is passionate about.

i think you're too focused on the push and pull technique where there are other more techniques to consider to produce the desired effects i.e. positive and negative validation, rapport/emotional connection, challenges etc.

about the ending of your last comment " mean jeez look at u", you're focusing too much on her looks man. this girl has got more going on for her than her looks. if you keep going on about it with her then she'll think you're not unique or special and like every other guy that just wants to have sex with her.

talk to her as an individual. give her what no other guy will give her, a unique conversational experience.

oh yeh. one more comment about the last thing you said to the girl: NO SWEARING
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