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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:32 pm ] |
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Negging via Online Game Before we begin discussing the use of negs when going online to meet women I think it's very important that we define what a neg is. Most people really are not sure what they are or have false ideas about what a neg is designed to do. Neg: Verb, noun: a statement or action made to briefly and without insult disqualify oneself from being perceived as a potential suitor. - Usage: to neg someone, to be negged, to throw negs, to master negging. The Mystery Method Copyright © 2007 St. Martin’s Press. Neg: Any gambit that, without insult, disqualifies oneself as a potential suitor. - Mystery Revelation Copyright © 2008 The definition has not changed much in the past year at all. As you can tell a neg is basically a form of false disqualifier that prevents you from being seen as a potential suitor. This way we can come in under her protection shield (aka bitch shield). When reading the Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women into bed when under Neg Theory section you will read something that will say.... "A 10 may get three negs up front in quick succession just for being beautiful, while an 8 gets only one or two." ~ The Mystery Method Copyright © 2007 St. Martin’s Press. Now first of all, keep in mind that Mystery when he wrote this is strictly referring to meeting these HB8s, 9's, and 10's in mostly night time environments. Mystery is also writing this from the perspective that he is using group theory. When these girls are out they are likely to be with their peer group of friends, since hot women are rarely found alone. The ideas of Negs completely work around the idea of "perceived social value." Online is a little different because we aren't approaching a girl hanging out with her friends where she's the leader of her peer group. We are approaching this lady in her home when she's alone, online checking her messages. The fact that she is an 8, 9, or 10 is not really a big factor. At home she's just another normal person with their insecurities and life's problems. When she's out with her friends she's a little different than the way she acts when she's home alone. I think most of you would agree with that. Since we have established that at home her social value is temporarily disabled and she's alone with her own thoughts are negs really needed at all? She's not sitting there as HB10 leader of her group of girls. She's sitting at home as Sarah in her pajamas chatting online. In my humble opinion negs are rarely needed in person, and almost never needed online. As Mystery states a HB8 may need 2 negs in a social setting and a HB10 may need 3 up front in that same setting. However, with online game we have removed that setting so there is no need so neg her to lower her "perceived social value" unless you are just doing it to disqualify yourself as a potential suitor. But wait...its kind of hard to disqualify yourself as a potential suitor online when your actions dictate something else. In a club you can talk to everyone and disqualifying yourself that way. Online when you choose to message her amongst everyone else online your actions indicate you are interested in her. So what is really the point of the neg in this instance? Guess there isn't one. This is why I can say negs are almost never needed online. You don't need to lower her social value for reasons discussed. You also don't need to disqualify yourself as a potential suitor typically for reasons discussed. Why else would we use a neg? Perhaps, some of you guys are using negs to treat bad behavior. We reward good behavior with IOIs and we shun bad behavior with negs. Okay, I can see the point in that but again it's rarely needed. Lastly, you have to consider that when you neg in person there are a lot of factors at play. She can hear the way you say it, your body language, and facial expressions. She can tell the neg is you being playful. Online she can't see or hear you she can only read what you wrote. Many times negs are interpreted as insults because she can't read your body language, so be very careful with how you word things. The use of emoticons like I believe you can now see why negs are rarely if ever needed when talking to women online. You can see that with the removed social SPAM, and your direct action in contacting her most of the reasons we'd neg are now mute points. ~Jon aka JSmooth |
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| Author: | TheJ [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:47 pm ] |
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Good post Jon, and I think this should be posted in the General section. Sure you apply it to online gaming, but you clarify the use of a neg very well and basicaly deconstruct it depending on the social setting. Following the same principle, it's easy to understand why you shoudn't neg when approaching a lone wolf in a day setting. Teasing is often mistaken with Neging. Tease all the way, regardless of setting. But Neging should be done lightly. Anyhow, I'm rambling now. Thanks for the read! |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
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Quote: Good post Jon, and I think this should be posted in the General section. Sure you apply it to online gaming, but you clarify the use of a neg very well and basicaly deconstruct it depending on the social setting.
TheJ,Following the same principle, it's easy to understand why you shoudn't neg when approaching a lone wolf in a day setting. Teasing is often mistaken with Neging. Tease all the way, regardless of setting. But Neging should be done lightly. Anyhow, I'm rambling now. Thanks for the read! Thank you for your comments. I have actually written a post similar to this called "Stop Negging the Hell Out of Women" that was posted in the Lounge I think. It basically outlines that too many new pickup artists use negs far too many times. I agree that teasing is the way to go. Have a good one, ~Jon |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:44 pm ] |
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BUMP... Think this needed a bump there are a lot of people negging via Online Game and getting shot down cause of it. |
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| Author: | papichulo818 [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:22 pm ] |
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I think negs are overrated anyway. Even HB9s and 10s underneath it all may be very insecure, guys just may not approach them due to the intimidation factor they carry. As for most guys who use negs they don't execute them properly and they can easily be construed as an outright insult. |
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