Hey JZ,

I run into these women all the time and the first thing I do is Report them, then Unmatch them. First, they're probably not who they appear to be in there profile. Second, they only have one agenda and that isn't meeting guys, it's opening their wallets.

Major props for any PUA who can turn that dynamic on it's head and get a result.

It seems unlikely they will show any interest in a guy who's looking for women on Tinder, unless that guys going to open his wallet.

Steer clear is my advice. Spend your time on those looking for a 10 like yourself!!

There are these women on Tinder that have obvious motives other than dating. Some of them are trying to get social media followers. There are others that are trying to sell something. I've been running into these women who are trying to sell Herbalife, but fact of it they are usually HB8's, 9's and 10's. I like those numbers. So when I get matches with them, I try to run them like any other woman. But since they have other motives, I'm having difficulty to getting to the point of meeting up even though I can get a phone number. Is there any guy here that has experienced these types and been able to break through or are they just a waste of time?

Um, they are scam artists, not on there to date you. Seriously dude, use your brain.

You are saying that even though they are scam artists and that they are not susceptible to being seduced? The flaw in what you are saying is that they are still women. That's like saying that you can't date a stripper, waitress, or bartender because they are not there to date you.

One of the examples I used was the herbalife type. You'll see them in their pictures in bikinis and tight clothing...but eventually you will come across a picture of them with some kind of herbalife quote. I had never reached out to one because I knew that was an ad. However, one made contact with me. We got to the point of the conversation that we should meet up and go out. We did exactly that. I even told her that I didn't contact her because I thought she was on there to sell something. Her response to that was she does use it to generate customers, mostly, but she also wants to have a relationship. So, I decided that I wasn't going to pass on those anymore. So here's my sticking point...I can get a phone number, but I'm having difficulties setting up a date afterwards.

Dude. You need to wake up. These pictures aren't the pictures of the girl selling the products! Like CharlesFinley said, I bet are dudes, and some are even bots. Even that example you use she is just jerking your chain to get you to buy shit.

So why are you asking for advice if you are closing these girls?

If you are having to ask this, it's obvious that you didn't read the question. Or you're trying deflect that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, especially since all these girls that you somehow have interpreted was only one girl and I made it clear that she made initial contact...but you wanted to make the statement that she was jerking my chain.

But I know guys like you. It's going to be more important to be right than anything else.

From my experience most of these girls are scammers, or not even girls, and not even their real picture, just pure internet marketing using tinder. If you actually managed to close someone who is using tinder to sell freaking Herbalife, you are the one who should be telling us what to do, not vice versa.