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Author:  j3m4090 [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:05 am ]
Post subject:  Just be real and tell me whats wrong :p
I know im new and really hate to just randomly expect info for nothing but in all honesty just tell me whats wrong. I keep sending message and get views but no responses. I Changed my profile info and pics various times and just cant get ot rogjt. Any idea on whats wrong? I would post link but im too new...just search j3min1 on okcupid
Author:  Mr.Jowee [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:52 am ]
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What kind of messages are you sending? Unless your profile pics are Adonis-like sexy, you'll have to do better than a simple "hey, what's up."
Author:  TheRedBaron [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:49 am ]
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I know im new and really hate to just randomly expect info for nothing but in all honesty just tell me whats wrong. I keep sending message and get views but no responses. I Changed my profile info and pics various times and just cant get ot rogjt. Any idea on whats wrong? I would post link but im too new...just search j3min1 on okcupid
This is going to come off harsh, but you should just scrap the whole profile. Wait until you've learned what to do, because if you try to work with that all you're going to do is waste your time and get frustrated.

For starters, your pictures, man. Take em all out. You should only have photos of yourself dressed up nice and looking sexy, with girls, with friends, or doing something fucking cool like skydiving or alligator-wrestling. That last photo with the long hair makes you look creepy. Take it out ASAP. You want photos that paint an alluring lifestyle that girls want to be a part of. Look at your photos and ask yourself objectively if they paint a lifestyle a stranger would want in on.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but your body type says 'fit,' and I'm sorry man, but you just don't look fit at all.

I see that you're using a variation of the cookie-cutter cocky-funny profile. That's fine for beginners, but in my experience that shit hardly works on OK Cupid because these kinds of profiles communicate nothing about your personality or who you are, and OKC girls tend to be smarter. You'll have more luck with it on PoF.

On income you have 'rather not say.' Just leave that shit blank; 'rather not say' always suggests you have something to hide.

In your profile you have shit like "I also wonder why im so damn awesome lol" and "Sometimes I sit and listen to youtube videos of my favorite car engine for hours lol. It a lullaby for my ears" and "Working on reliving my past life as a hippy"........ The first 2 just sound lame and the last one doesn't make sense. Stuff like this just communicates too much cockiness and a boring lifestyle. Remember, always try to look at your profile from the perspective of a girl, who has the option of dozens or hundreds of other dudes on this site, a lot of them good-looking with 6 packs or super interesting. Then ask yourself if you think your profile will stand out among them.

Also, you say you have favorite books like Dante's Inferno and The Prince, but your grammar is sloppy and you don't seem to know the difference between "your" and "you're." I might be biased because I'm a writer, but bad grammar is a serious turn off. And since you're writing about yourself instead of talking about yourself here, your sentences need to look more intelligent.

My advice to you, besides putting up better photos, is to join a gym, ask a female friend or someone to teach you some fashion sense, and get some real clothes. Baggy shorts, huge white t-shirts, and baseball caps is not an appealing look and just communicates a lack of style. Being in muay thai might enable you to kick someone's ass, but as is you don't look fit at all.

I'm not dissing you here; online game is primarily all about the photos, i.e. how attractive you look and what kind of lifestyle your photos paint. And then you want to be sure you have a profile that will either make her HAVE to respond, rolling on the floor laughing, or some similar strong emotional response.

There's plenty more info on online game on the internet. I suggest doing research in addition to this thread.
Author:  j3m4090 [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just be real and tell me whats wrong :p
@jowee.... Hey there never worked for me . I usually try to do a variation of canned messages from different forums but only get a response rate of like 10% at best.

@baron. Not harsh at all man...... Now excuse me while a jump off a bridge :p just kidding. I kind of came to that same conclusion last week. My whole dilemma is I am constantly changing for the better. Those pictures where about 40 pounds ago in December and since then I've completely overhauled my life. The long hair is now shoulder length and I've tried to get better clothes (kind of hard to have something fit when your body isn't the same from month to month).

Now when it comes to typos in my profile.......your right there is no excuse for that and it just looks ignorant by not fixing it. I am also having issues with the content on my profile because I pretty much get conflicting info. One person tells me to be more direct and the others claims it works by being funny. I've tried both but they have pretty much the same success rate. Any suggestions as to how i should write my profile? Just kick me towards the right direction :)
Author:  TheRedBaron [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:21 pm ]
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@jowee.... Hey there never worked for me . I usually try to do a variation of canned messages from different forums but only get a response rate of like 10% at best.

@baron. Not harsh at all man...... Now excuse me while a jump off a bridge :p just kidding. I kind of came to that same conclusion last week. My whole dilemma is I am constantly changing for the better. Those pictures where about 40 pounds ago in December and since then I've completely overhauled my life. The long hair is now shoulder length and I've tried to get better clothes (kind of hard to have something fit when your body isn't the same from month to month).

Now when it comes to typos in my profile.......your right there is no excuse for that and it just looks ignorant by not fixing it. I am also having issues with the content on my profile because I pretty much get conflicting info. One person tells me to be more direct and the others claims it works by being funny. I've tried both but they have pretty much the same success rate. Any suggestions as to how i should write my profile? Just kick me towards the right direction :)
I'm in a situation where right now all I can do is online game, so I've spent an aggravating amount of time researching the shit out of it. Trust me, you're going to find ppl who tell you to write your profile one way and ppl who say to do it another, and sometimes they might contradict each other.

What I found works best for me is going for almost pure funny (i joke around a lot), but not by writing funny things or one-liners. It's just the WAY that I write it. At the same time, it incorporates my personality and tells them something about myself. For example, I get kind of goofy sometimes and swear like a sailor. So if I was into traveling, I'd say something like, "I'm fucking worldly. We hang out and you want to know where I got this weird necklace? From the motherfucking MIDDLE EAST! Yeah, where they got camels and shit." My whole profile is written in that vein, with just a touch of seriousness to balance it out. Note that this is what works for ME because it's accute with my personality. Part of the reason cookie cutter profiles don't work for some guys is because their messages don't match up with their profiles, or vice versa.

If you want a professional photo or two, check out onemodelplace.com and modelmayhem.com. It's super easy to find a photographer who's willing to shoot you for free and you don't have to actually look like a model.
Author:  j3m4090 [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just be real and tell me whats wrong :p
Should i wait till i have hit my target weight or just upgrade and go as we go?
Author:  GKS [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just be real and tell me whats wrong :p
The key to be success with online dating is really simple. Be a fearless, funny and no drama version of yourself.

Don't try to be someone else, in this case, better PUA than you. What I meant is take in all the advice and tailor them to your personality. Show your fun side and play your strengths on your profile. It's simple, if you suck at thumb wars, don't mention it. If you're extremely good at picking your nose, make it out to be a national sport. With some humor of course.

This is the best way to land a date and an f-closed. It puts them at ease when they meet you in real life and see that your personality is congruent with your profile. The problem that newbies have with getting advice from more experienced PUAs is that you take in more than what you can chew. Your profile with the help of us might be extremely enticing, flowing with confident and humor, but it doesn't really mean SHIT if you can't pull off that frame in real life. They take one look and walk away.

Second thing, from my personal experiences, always push for f-close even if it's on the first date. They're all online looking for guys for the same reason with you. If you want to look for someone to settle and get married with, I'd suggest day game. Women tend to invest more energy and time in those scenarios.
Author:  j3m4090 [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:56 am ]
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So be me x10 and keep going at it........Yea it is a lot of info at once but like muay thai sometimes u just got to hop in and not worry about getting bruised sometimes. I figured online sarging is the weakest point in my game so i want to work on it till its my strongest point.
Author:  Muzz [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:22 pm ]
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Your profile is all over the place. Try to find some congruence within yourself.
Author:  j3m4090 [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:11 pm ]
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Your profile is all over the place. Try to find some congruence within yourself.
Your right...it looks like i took info from a ton of people and just threw it in a bowl expecting it to be something miraculous. My biggest issue right now is i cant really say who i am....what i mean is I have changed my mental/physical aspects so much i just haven't sat down and figured out what my strength and weaknesses are. Kinda like a 26 year old version of puberty ( or just growing up and becoming a man finally)
Author:  j3m4090 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:20 pm ]
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Well i semi tried updating my profile (few new pics and new summary)....can u guys give me some input?
Author:  GKS [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just be real and tell me whats wrong :p
You can use materials from other people. However, make sure that it speaks your personality. You can't be a charming chivalrous guy in one part then turn around and sound like a selfish confident asshole the next section. It gave them a wrong impression that you're unstable.

The best way to do it, is get the ideas from us, then use your own words and personality to interpret them. The profile should be upbeat and fun to read with couple hooks to spike curiosity. And also unique. I have a trademark to use creative sarcasm and a few unique words that people can just tell it's my profile just from a look at it.
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