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Author:  azgirlchasing [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Need help with HB9 on POF

Ok so I'm trying to game this HB9 on POF who I could tell wouldn't go for most of my usual game. So, I tried to be "from the heart" and got a response, but now I'm at a dead end after she didn't respond to my last message.

Me: You are clearly cut from a different cloth than most girls in today's world. You seem extroverted yet reserved, confident but
at the same time down to earth, and playful yet caring; you are an anomaly. Most importantly, you are definitely motivated
and driven to succeed.
Also, when you read my profile, remember I just wrote it with the goal of putting smiles on people's faces. I don't really take
myself too seriously. :)

No response, so I waited a couple of days and then messaged her.

Me: Hey, so I never message a girl twice, so I am obviously breaking my own rule. I am sure that you probably get a ton of messages from random losers who are are obsessed with your looks. I am not like them.

My las two girl friends were both signed models, and they taught me that what is on the inside is far more important that what is on the exterior.

I am extremely outgoing, have a great sense of humor, am very intelligent, and am actuall really down to earth. I truly have a lot going for me.

If you are merely here for a self confidence boost, no need to message me back, but if you actually do care to find someone who has a similar personality and has similar interests to you then you should get to know me.

By the way, my name is X :)

HB9: Definitely not here for a self confidence boost. No offense to you that I didn't write back I've been busy and I kinda met a guy on here so I was gonna see how things go. You seem very mature for your age, and that's awesome you dated models ha.

Me: None taken haha, and thank you very much. Most people have that same opinion of me.

As for the models, it was exciting at first, but they were both pretty superficial people. I tend to prefer a person who I can truly connect with.

So you're studying to be a nurse. Where are you going to school?



Any ideas on what I should do since she hasn't responded?

Author:  papichulo818 [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with HB9 on POF

Quote:
Ok so I'm trying to game this HB9 on POF who I could tell wouldn't go for most of my usual game. So, I tried to be "from the heart" and got a response, but now I'm at a dead end after she didn't respond to my last message.

Me: You are clearly cut from a different cloth than most girls in today's world. You seem extroverted yet reserved, confident but
at the same time down to earth, and playful yet caring; you are an anomaly. Most importantly, you are definitely motivated
and driven to succeed.

Too many IOIs stacked into one paragraph, comes across as needy/seeking validation.

Also, when you read my profile, remember I just wrote it with the goal of putting smiles on people's faces. I don't really take
myself too seriously. :)

No response, so I waited a couple of days and then messaged her.

Me: Hey, so I never message a girl twice, so I am obviously breaking my own rule. I am sure that you probably get a ton of messages from random losers who are are obsessed with your looks. I am not like them.

My las two girl friends were both signed models, and they taught me that what is on the inside is far more important that what is on the exterior.

I am extremely outgoing, have a great sense of humor, am very intelligent, and am actuall really down to earth. I truly have a lot going for me.

If you are merely here for a self confidence boost, no need to message me back, but if you actually do care to find someone who has a similar personality and has similar interests to you then you should get to know me.

Trying too hard "last 2 gfs were both signed models" why even go there? And I wouldnt explicitly state what you have, or have not going on but rather convey it through conversation rather than directly listing your virtues - looks very unbecoming and again trying too hard. You bought right into her frame that "I am hot, I am the prize, men need to PROVE themselves to me". With all due respect, she likely msg'd you back to be nice, and that's why you haven't heard back from her.

By the way, my name is X :)

HB9: Definitely not here for a self confidence boost. No offense to you that I didn't write back I've been busy and I kinda met a guy on here so I was gonna see how things go. You seem very mature for your age, and that's awesome you dated models ha.

Me: None taken haha, and thank you very much. Most people have that same opinion of me.

As for the models, it was exciting at first, but they were both pretty superficial people. I tend to prefer a person who I can truly connect with.

So you're studying to be a nurse. Where are you going to school?



Any ideas on what I should do since she hasn't responded?
Honestly all this smacks of typical nice-guy conversation. I'm not suggesting you be an a&hole because that's equally as bad, if not worse. What I'm saying is it sounds like the same drivel she reads 10x a day. Spice things up, show your fun side be engaging don't simply ask her what she's studying but talk about some random, off-kilter shit that'll grab her and think "hahah this guy is fun/funny, I wanna know more".

I see where you're going:
You: So you're studying to be a nurse, where are you going to school?
Her: (if she even responds) I attend blah blah blah.
You: Uh, cool! How much longer you got?
Her: ....2 semesters remaining
You: So like what do you do you in spare time for fun?

It just gets stuck in this endless loop of boring and mundane. Women want excitement, they want fun. Don't be fearful to experiment stepping out of yourself a bit with this girl and being a bit whacky. Right now energy level in your convo is low, almost flatline low and this is why she's not responding, or responding so slowly. You'll notice when you spark something because her response time will be much shorter; it's like magic and you'll notice right away.

Hmm..you guys don't have a lot of convo themes you can use from the limited convo you've already. You do however got nursing, and modelling (and perhaps anything else you can extract and work from her profile description).

While I don't condone lying, if it can be used to create a spark then no harm, no foul. You can think of a real whacky story concerning one of your model ex gfs and share that with her. Something so crazy but not too overthetop where it's implausible.

I found this on modelmayhem.com lol:

"I'd probably have to say my craziest stories so far was when I shot with a photographer at a local nude beach here in San Diego, and there was this guy on the beach, just some normal guy and he was some yards away in the water playing with his junk and watching us...it was one of the creepiest things...i wouldn't say crazy, just creepy and gross"

tool that in some way to make it more funny and less creepy, but I think you get the idea.

Author:  DecentValue [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:53 pm ]
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This ^^

x100.

It was WAAAAY too needy/AFC. Plus, it didn't seem genuine.

You basically said "I'm not all about your looks, but I'm going overboard giving you all these other compliments, BECAUSE of your looks. I'm just not MENTIONING your looks so you won't think I'm another guy who's impressed by your looks."

(Think about it. Would you be trying this hard with all these extra messages if she was an HB4? Not likely. And she knows this.)

Not to mention, you went into "standard boring mode" with the conversation. Women go to school EVERY DAY. Do you really think they wanna get online & talk about that same crap? I know I wouldn't! They wanna be taken away by a guy with some imagination. Some creativity, some RANGE! Someone who can make her think "oooh, fun!" and get AWAY from her every day life, even if it's just through the course of an online conversation.

Author:  papichulo818 [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:05 am ]
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Throw a fucking curve ball at her, trip her up but in a good way that'll grab her and rock her fucking face off! Then you'll be more likely to get responses, and quick ones too.

Author:  azgirlchasing [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:27 pm ]
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Thanks guys. I did realize it was extremely AFC and needy when I wrote all of that stuff. Definitely should have gone with my normal C&F. The one thing that is throwing me with this girl is the fact that her profile definitely made it sound like she wanted someone genuine and mature, so that's why I deviated from my normal game. Now normally this wouldn't change my approach, but I wanted to see if I could out-AFC all the AFCs lol. I guess not. Definitely learned my lesson.

Any suggestions on what kind of curve I should throw at her?[/quote]

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