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Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Guys now this is only getting worse. Just these past few days I've had a group of 2 girls show interest in me in Pakistan and just last night I had 2 white girls approach me(not to hook up - one just needed some help with her handband and the other said 'Your hair look fine'(I was doing a ponytail) and a night before that a very hot blonde was giving me party gestures while dancing next to me. Ya know what's common between all those girls? They all approached ME. And somehow I managed to screw that too.

A little bit about myself, I'm a 25 years old guy from Pakistan. The white girls mentioned above are on a vacation in Thailand like myself. I'm not really sure what's wrong with me. I'm average looking guy according to Western Standards and above average by Pakistani standards( get lots of looks almost everywhere in Pakistan).

3 things have shattered my chances with girls. First is my height of 5'5''- while my height doesn't bother me much in Pakistan since in Pakistan rarely I come across girls any taller than I but with White girls there's 6-7 out of 10 taller than I. Now that's something that doesn't sit well with me. Second's my weight- I'm overweight by some 25 Lbs but let's not go into that since losing 25 lbs with proper motivation is only a matter of 90 days for me. Third thing is as important as first and it concerns both- The Pakistani girls and the Western girls alike and that's my Superiority Complex. The reason for that maybe my net worth. Let's just say I'm in the top 5 percentile in New York City.

My height and Ego are severely hurting my chances in the game. I only have 1 girlfriend and she puts up a lot with my arrogance. I just can't seem to take 'No' for an answer. I wanna change this. What are your thought?
I even had to idea to shift to California, enroll in a drama school and make my own indie films and star myself in those and try to break even when all's said and done. Not looking for profit. Also open up a nightclub. Again not to make money but to just to get laid without any effort and be a popular person generally. Your thoughts?
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Despite your height and other insecurities, you are still not taking it to the next stage. So let's disregard height and occupation and location for the time being.

You're probably afraid to make the move? You have girls opening you and you're not even getting a make out or phone number, solve this part and then figure out the rest as you go along, going to the gym should go with out saying...always be closing. You can always buy some heel lifts mixed with some boots to give you an extra 3 inch in height.

You will defo not get all those IOI's if you move to California though and you will be in a world of shit if you don't blast this escalation sticking point in that environment. Seems you're doing it a little backwards if you ask me. Handle the ting that's stopping you from getting laid, then improve your situation around that part.
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Yeah, I can't seem to make a move in spite of IOIs. How should I solve this part? The first step to solve this part is to overcome my arrogance - something I'm having very little success with. The height issue is temporary, I won't be short for long. Let's leave that discussion for other thread. With height and weight issue gone, I still have huge phsycological issues opening up to a girl.

Also could ya elaborate a little on your comment for moving to California?
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
How do you get over a fear of heights? You start small and overcome the fear by exposure bit by bit. Sounds to me you're not even approaching girls at all. If you're not cold approaching then you're simply at step 1 trying to handle your approach anxiety.

We all have it but from 7,000+ approaches I have learned to control better than most people. See what I'm saying? You need to put in the required time, it doesn't sound like you're doing that. Cold approach is the trenches and it will put some hair on your chest for sure. Whenever I get an IOI these days, it's almost a guarenteed lay, but that's only because I know how to approach and escalate from the foundation. You haven't built your foundation yet.

Approach 20 girls a week a the least. Bruise your ego so you can grow.

Read my sig thread. You will get the picture that this part of your life takes hard work and you haven't beem immersed into pick up it seems.

Regarding California, no idea what you look like or dress but if you dress average, an overweight Pakistani dude in Cali will not get many IOI's for sure. If you've been to Cali you could understand that everybody is above average looking and usually in great shape as is their career, lifestyle etc. To find out a cheaper way to find this out for yourself, pay for tinder and then set your location to San Diego or LA. Your fingers will hurt I would imagine.

Get to work bro, eat clean, dress better, lift weights, approach 20 girls a week at the minimum, make a move on each one that is into you then start to think about living in a location if you would like.
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
You sound very reasonable. I must open up to a few girls regularly at least.
Regarding California, you didn't get me. I'd offer girls roles in my indie films, I'm that'd get me plenty attentionn
Perhaps that Tinder idea's worth a shot. Anything else you've to add?
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
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You sound very reasonable. I must open up to a few girls regularly at least.
Regarding California, you didn't get me. I'd offer girls roles in my indie films, I'm that'd get me plenty attentionn
Perhaps that Tinder idea's worth a shot. Anything else you've to add?
I have no experience with indie films or the demand. But if you think that will help you get laid...then go for it.

Often people around here try to hack their way to obtain pussy with being...club promoters, photographers, model agency boss and what not. The ones that don't develop the foundation are usually still frustrated that they ain't getting what they hoped for. I would suggest to handle the fundamentals and then work on your career later down the line. Look at Dan Bilzerian, seems like a guy that would get laid without all that flashy stuff.

You currently can't capitalise on IOI's, which means that if you get IOI's from the indie film producer you're going to come across the same issue aren't you? Stop brushing your anxieties under the carpet and work on blasting them instead as well as your career.
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
That's some great advise. Well, indie films because I myself like acting. So if I can get laid while persuing my hobby, what more could I ask for?

I'm out of shape at the moment. Do you think I should first get into shape or open up to girls right away?
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Both.
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
By both, I assume, you meant get in shape right away and approach girls as well. Well, thanks for all the advise. I'll try updating the thread later tonight. Let's see how it goes.
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Takes a long time.

Just do both. Make it a habit from this day forth. Don't wait till you're in shape. Start today. Take control
Author:  Style981 [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Hi bro. I am from Pakistan. Are you sarging in Pakistan or in Western countries ??
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Okay, here I come.
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Hi bro. I am from Pakistan. Are you sarging in Pakistan or in Western countries ??
Hey there! Well, at the moment, I ain't sarging at all. Pakistani girls are too much drama. Managing a date is nothing short of Mission Impossible and God forbid should ya have sex. Well, at least that's my experience. In Pakistan, your best bet is either your employee or a mistress. What's your perspective regarding gaming in Pakistan?
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Takes a long time.
Just do both. Make it a habit from this day forth. Don't wait till you're in shape. Start today. Take control
I just went out. Had a meal. And I'm back. Can't gather enough courage at the moment. As much as I'd like to open right away, I can't. At least not as a lonely(I'm traveling alone) fat manlet. I think I might open up to girls in Pakistan when I get there in a day or two.
Author:  Style981 [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
Dating is quite common in Pakistan. However the effort is about the double as in Western countries.
Sex - Some guys can get upto cuddling and kissing. I am not sure about the actual sex.. you know .. But up to kissing and cuddling I am sure as I know those people.

Cold approach is hell difficult. As you might know you can not only get rejected, but get beaten up too if the girl freaks out. I have known only about 2 people in my life who are experts in cold approach here.
Talking about cold approach, that's the reason I asked you if you are sarging (or trying to sarge) in Pakistan. Can't start to cold approach uptill now. If you have some experiences in Pakistan or know some one who did please share. Would love to hear that out.
Best of luck btw. You can do real fine if you are abroad. Atleast its not considered morally or socially "Illegal" there.
Author:  Marak [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fed up of missing on oppotunities. HEEEELLLPPP!
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Dating is quite common in Pakistan. However the effort is about the double as in Western countries.
Sex - Some guys can get upto cuddling and kissing. I am not sure about the actual sex.. you know .. But up to kissing and cuddling I am sure as I know those people.

Cold approach is hell difficult. As you might know you can not only get rejected, but get beaten up too if the girl freaks out. I have known only about 2 people in my life who are experts in cold approach here.
Talking about cold approach, that's the reason I asked you if you are sarging (or trying to sarge) in Pakistan. Can't start to cold approach uptill now. If you have some experiences in Pakistan or know some one who did please share. Would love to hear that out.
Best of luck btw. You can do real fine if you are abroad. Atleast its not considered morally or socially "Illegal" there.
Well, i can only tell ya what i've personally experienced. Scoring a date is a big deal in Pakistan, let alone sex, due to fear of girl's parents finding out. I'm sick of all the drama either from the family or from the girl herself to the point of stop gaming in Pakistan alltogether.

As for cold approaches, they may not work in Pakistan but there's always indirect openers. Those are unlikely to het you into any trouble. Do ya live in Pakistan?
Author:  Style981 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:02 am ]
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As for cold approaches, they may not work in Pakistan but there's always indirect openers. Those are unlikely to het you into any trouble. Do ya live in Pakistan?
Yea currently living here. But I have plans to move abroad whenever I get a chance. Its not suitable here for my career too. And I am sick of drama too. Though I wouldn't say getting on a date is that much of a problem. But girls in general are mentally fucked up here.
So where and how can I use Indirect Openers where I dont get into trouble ?? Any examples ??
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