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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:01 pm 
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^^ You are referring specifically to routine / script-based pickup. Many of us on this site never use scripts or gimmicks. PUA hate is a forum full of guys who have paid money for boot camps and are still unsuccessful with women, so instead of analysing what they're doing wrong, they lash out at PUA and call it a ripoff to justify their own failures. I've spent about £50 on PUA books and I've never been on a bootcamp. This forum in an invaluable free resource also. I've always been confident but I was missing a few pieces in my game. The books and this forum filled in a lot of the gaps and I'm now far more successful because of it. Some guys aren't lucky enough to be as confident or socially aware as I am, so for them, bootcamp can do wonders for their game.
I would say that the majority of PUAHate are guys who became disillusioned with the ridiculousness of pickup ("hey 1/10 ugly homeless guy, you can score a supermodel by negging twice then DHVing into a super secret routine stack!")... I got into the community when I was 11 years old. I am now 20. I have been out to clubs etc many, many times and it has become very apparent to me that the entire community is bunk. A waste of time and money. When you go out, just make sure you look your best and you're dressed well (and not "autist well" as in fedora hats and waistcoats, disgusting), then talk normally to women. If any of you have ever been approached by a woman you'll know that they all do the same thing, "where are you from?" "what's your name?", maybe even a "what do you do for work?". Talking to women as a man is no different. If she's interested she'll be receptive. In fact if anything the community is detrimental because it makes you trigger shy and too scared to put a foot wrong, "DO NOT SOUND SUPPLICATING! NEVER BUY DRINKS! DON'T STAND A 45 DEGREE ANGLE!" whilst all of your friends are relaxed and free talking to women.

Any girl you've picked up using your "super secret tactics" are girls you could have picked up anyway if you spoke to her without coming across really weird. I also don't see how you can be "missing pieces" of your game unless you don't ask for their number and never ask them to hang out.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:08 am 
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So what you're saying is PUAHate guys get fat women with tons of makeup on their face, and need a buddy to do it?
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Many PUAHaters are more experienced with women than "pickup artists" and way more popular with better social skills. Here's me an average PUAHater "basement dwelling" a couple of days ago:

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I would say that the majority of PUAHate are guys who became disillusioned with the ridiculousness of pickup ("hey 1/10 ugly homeless guy, you can score a supermodel by negging twice then DHVing into a super secret routine stack!")... I got into the community when I was 11 years old. I am now 20. I have been out to clubs etc many, many times and it has become very apparent to me that the entire community is bunk. A waste of time and money. When you go out, just make sure you look your best and you're dressed well (and not "autist well" as in fedora hats and waistcoats, disgusting), then talk normally to women. If any of you have ever been approached by a woman you'll know that they all do the same thing, "where are you from?" "what's your name?", maybe even a "what do you do for work?". Talking to women as a man is no different. If she's interested she'll be receptive. In fact if anything the community is detrimental because it makes you trigger shy and too scared to put a foot wrong, "DO NOT SOUND SUPPLICATING! NEVER BUY DRINKS! DON'T STAND A 45 DEGREE ANGLE!" whilst all of your friends are relaxed and free talking to women.

Any girl you've picked up using your "super secret tactics" are girls you could have picked up anyway if you spoke to her without coming across really weird. I also don't see how you can be "missing pieces" of your game unless you don't ask for their number and never ask them to hang out.
My missing pieces were things like how to keep her interested after the the first night of sex, getting better at opening groups of girls rather than just one, and my night game was solid but day game a bit weak etc.

Again, the things you are criticising are not the only PUA techniques, eg. Peacocking is only one style of PUA.

Aged 11 you would've been too young to understand many of the PUA concepts. You've obviously spent money on PUA or you would have no reason to be angry. How much did you spend?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:39 pm 
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So what you're saying is PUAHate guys get fat women with tons of makeup on their face, and need a buddy to do it?
She's slimmer than me, why don't you post some pictures of you with women? I'm curious to see what a "master pickup artist" can achieve.

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My missing pieces were things like how to keep her interested after the the first night of sex, getting better at opening groups of girls rather than just one, and my night game was solid but day game a bit weak etc.

Again, the things you are criticising are not the only PUA techniques, eg. Peacocking is only one style of PUA.

Aged 11 you would've been too young to understand many of the PUA concepts. You've obviously spent money on PUA or you would have no reason to be angry. How much did you spend?
If you see our website, you will notice that what is being bashed is the stupid scammy bullshit and ridiculous concepts like routines, negs, peacocking. I also don't see how you need PUA to open groups of women, it's as simple as exchanging a few lines with one who catches your eye then introducing yourself to her friends. I spent nothing on pickup material or bootcamps, but unfortunately many men do. I learned 100000000x more from going out than I did from all the ridiculous theory.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:12 am 
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Haha this isn't PUAhate bro. We don't compare penis length here, Sorry.

Why are you so negative anyways? What's your point for saying all of this? What could you possibly change, you who has no control over how other people see their realities? You, who has no say over what others believe or think because you are not them? Why do you feel the need to spread negativity, when you know it doesn't make you feel better about yourself?

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If you see our website, you will notice that what is being bashed is the stupid scammy bullshit and ridiculous concepts like routines, negs, peacocking. I also don't see how you need PUA to open groups of women, it's as simple as exchanging a few lines with one who catches your eye then introducing yourself to her friends. I spent nothing on pickup material or bootcamps, but unfortunately many men do. I learned 100000000x more from going out than I did from all the ridiculous theory.
So do you guys at PUA Hate also hate unscripted natural game?

I was already opening groups of girls, I didn't need PUA for that. Studying PUA and body language simply improved something I was pretty ok at already. I don't know what makes you think you are qualified to give game advice anyway. Everything you've said is basically a guide on how to be boring, how to be exactly like every guy out there, how to be "normal", i.e. how to NOT stand out from the crowd.

The whole purpose of your site is negative. You wrongly assume that us PUA guys just stay at home reading. I'm out clubbing 3x times a week, other guys on here probably go out more. Hate is a strong word. How can you hate something which hasn't lost you a dime?


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If you see our website, you will notice that what is being bashed is the stupid scammy bullshit and ridiculous concepts like routines, negs, peacocking. I also don't see how you need PUA to open groups of women, it's as simple as exchanging a few lines with one who catches your eye then introducing yourself to her friends. I spent nothing on pickup material or bootcamps, but unfortunately many men do. I learned 100000000x more from going out than I did from all the ridiculous theory.
So do you guys at PUA Hate also hate unscripted natural game?

I was already opening groups of girls, I didn't need PUA for that. Studying PUA and body language simply improved something I was pretty ok at already. I don't know what makes you think you are qualified to give game advice anyway. Everything you've said is basically a guide on how to be boring, how to be exactly like every guy out there, how to be "normal", i.e. how to NOT stand out from the crowd.

The whole purpose of your site is negative. You wrongly assume that us PUA guys just stay at home reading. I'm out clubbing 3x times a week, other guys on here probably go out more. Hate is a strong word. How can you hate something which hasn't lost you a dime?
We have no problem with unscripted natural game in many cases. Though many people on the site think RSD is the worst of all because of the weird delusions it installs into people, where they can justify everything they do with "it's self amusement", for example: "I SLAPPED HER! BECAUSE IT WAS AMUSING TO ME! Then I got arrested, wtf?!" and they just don't seem to understand.

Maybe "normal" is boring but I don't think so, I still joke around and have fun with girls I just met in most instances... But pickup material has taught you that it's not okay to chill and be yourself, that you have to put on all these fronts and acts and it's simply not true. Picking up women was so much easier when I got actual experience and just spoke to them in a friendly playful normal way. When I tried following a set plan of "I need to neg!" and all of that, I fucked it up with women who would probably have otherwise been interested. You never see cool guys or real players walking around with a Mystery Method handbook in their hands, and you have to ask yourself why that is. It's not even a secret society, EVERY NERD EVER knows about this, if you go on /r9k/ every single guy will know what you're talking about. But if you speak to a regular player cool guy he won't have a clue what you're talking about.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:50 am 
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If you see our website, you will notice that what is being bashed is the stupid scammy bullshit and ridiculous concepts like routines, negs, peacocking. I also don't see how you need PUA to open groups of women, it's as simple as exchanging a few lines with one who catches your eye then introducing yourself to her friends. I spent nothing on pickup material or bootcamps, but unfortunately many men do. I learned 100000000x more from going out than I did from all the ridiculous theory.
So do you guys at PUA Hate also hate unscripted natural game?

I was already opening groups of girls, I didn't need PUA for that. Studying PUA and body language simply improved something I was pretty ok at already. I don't know what makes you think you are qualified to give game advice anyway. Everything you've said is basically a guide on how to be boring, how to be exactly like every guy out there, how to be "normal", i.e. how to NOT stand out from the crowd.

The whole purpose of your site is negative. You wrongly assume that us PUA guys just stay at home reading. I'm out clubbing 3x times a week, other guys on here probably go out more. Hate is a strong word. How can you hate something which hasn't lost you a dime?
We have no problem with unscripted natural game in many cases. Though many people on the site think RSD is the worst of all because of the weird delusions it installs into people, where they can justify everything they do with "it's self amusement", for example: "I SLAPPED HER! BECAUSE IT WAS AMUSING TO ME! Then I got arrested, wtf?!" and they just don't seem to understand.

Maybe "normal" is boring but I don't think so, I still joke around and have fun with girls I just met in most instances... But pickup material has taught you that it's not okay to chill and be yourself, that you have to put on all these fronts and acts and it's simply not true. Picking up women was so much easier when I got actual experience and just spoke to them in a friendly playful normal way. When I tried following a set plan of "I need to neg!" and all of that, I fucked it up with women who would probably have otherwise been interested. You never see cool guys or real players walking around with a Mystery Method handbook in their hands, and you have to ask yourself why that is. It's not even a secret society, EVERY NERD EVER knows about this, if you go on /r9k/ every single guy will know what you're talking about. But if you speak to a regular player cool guy he won't have a clue what you're talking about.
Not every uses the game or the mystery method anymore. You are talking about the PUA scene 8 years ago. Now the emphasize is placed on a natural game. The main the things which you can learn from PUA are three things confidence, abundance(lots of women in your life) and the ability to sexually escalate. And BTW negging can help only with 10s if you do that to a girl who does not look like a model obviously you are going to get blow off.

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^^ +1 to the post above.

There's a reason why Mystery is no longer considered the top PUA. His ideas were perhaps pioneering in 2005, but pickup has come a long way since then.

I do chill and I'm very relaxed when I speak to girls. Ever since reading 60yoc, my success rate has tripled because I wasn't escalating quickly enough and I was wasting too much time getting to know girls with filler conversation. Rather than learn scripts, I internalise concepts like "I am the prize", "She should feel lucky I picked her", "I don't care about the outcome" and "I have other options". This has helped me a lot.

Even the feminists who hate PUAs think PUA Haters are worse than PUAs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:38 am 
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PUAhaters are retarded. They fight and argue about which method to use; night game, day game, social circle game, natural game, online dating game but not realizing that you can just use and combine all methods. The kind of game to use does not matter, what is important is that you continually maximize strategies to success.

PUAhaters are weird, loser freaks, they are stuck desperately attracting chicks but failing to realize something more important than attracting girls is attracting the right type of girls.

Women want quality but it is subjective according to women's apparent perception of what they consider as quality during the applicable current reference point in time.

1. PUAhaters are menlally retarded because they are trying to make a linear, logical solution for complex, infinite and varied problems = FAIL.

2. They are too retarded to understand that you can combine both Game and Non - Game to improve success rate and chance with women.

Sex, just like anything else is probabilistic. Anything can increase your success rate/chances.

But puahaters are retarded, they have the inability to grasp the concept of multi - probabilities.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:45 am 
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PUAhaters are mentally retarded and inefficient. They constantly fight over which venue or location is the best place to seduce and pick - up women but they never realize that socially adjusted extroverts --- the naturals they socialize all the time 24/7 anywhere from office, school, internet, church - EVERY fuckingwhere!!!

Each area and time contributes a small portion of success rate but the summation, if combine can be very high.

They do not have the ability to adapt. PUAhaters are failures in experimenting. They lack the ability for trial and error.

PUAhaters are too retarded for self - learning that they rely on gurus and bootcamps and seminars that they end up getting preyed and scammed by scammers. Only retarded people rely on these silly bootcamps/seminars and e-books.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:58 am 
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PUAhaters are mentally retarded wimpy virginal faggots.
Plus, they are too retarded to understand that women want intelligence/intelligent men but puahaters are too retarded to understand that there are different forms of intelligence. They keep on crying and crying and whinning and whinning about misery and pain and sadness. It is so damn freaking annoying!!!

I do not want to share my knowledge with these freaking retarded rascals.

Intelligence has been narrowly and wrongly defined as Intellectual Quotient or I.Q. This misconception of intelligence is making people confuse about what they can do to become intelligent, and how they can display intellectual value to attract women.

PUAhaters are so retarded losers creeps because they never understand that sports and even a swagger walk is KINESTHETIC Intelligence.

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They just cry and cry and cry about meatheads and jocks getting all the women - waahhh!! waahh!! wahhh.
Why women so evil? why do women reject intelligent high I.Q. boys? waah!! waahh!! waahh!!

But puahaters are mentally retarded because they FAIL to understand the concept of DIVERSITY and that women are attracted to different kinds of people and they are attracted to different kinds of intelligence.

PUAhaters are too mentally retarded to understand that women have sex with and for any sort of reason, sometimes for no reason. Sometimes, girls they just wanna have fun.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:05 am 
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PUAhaters are too mentally retarded. They fail to understand that women, do not want LOSERS. Women want winners.

They cling to stupid shitty retarded theories. They fail to evolve. They fail to update.

Like for example these freaking aspergery puahating internet marketers keep marketing their stupid "looks match theory," failing to realize that women do not want equality. They want QUALITY, something better, or what is known as BIGGER, BETTER DEAL. Of course, there are ways to circumvent, exploit and bypass those instinctive processes but I am not here to discuss for the internet marketers to plagiarize my ideas.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:12 am 
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PUAhaters are mentally retarded because they are too reliant and dependent on "Attraction".
They FAIL to think outside the box.

They assume that you need attraction to have sex with girls. This is a false assumption as you can have sex with girls for all sorts of reasons. They FAIL to go beyond intelligence.

This erroneous belief that you "NEED" a romantic relationship to make babies is built on the same fallacious way of thinking and presumption that "You need attraction in order to have sex with a girl"

Is it any wonder why these butthurt pauhaters get scammed? It is because they are mentally retarded. They do not possess the necessary neurotypical brain power to avoid scams.

If you continue keeping this erroneous and fallacious way of thinking then you are gonna get scam over and over and over again.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:16 am 
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PUAhaters are so wimpy, weak and disempowered.

PUAhaters fall in love or get attracted to women before they have sex with them. They lack emotional self - restraint not to allow themselves to fall in love with women before having sex with them multiple times.

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