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Oh lovely. (Sarcasm).
These guys are so not representative of the larger community.
What a shame. Fucking idiots.
Gotta say though, recently Ive become wary of the communities views on taking home women from bars. Maybe somethings need to change with respect to this advice. When you tell guys who have poor social skills and generally poor at reading social cues, maybe telling them to "pull" a chick from the bar and overcome lmr and resistance with dominance is not a good thing. We never know how intoxicated someone is...these guys in the article could have legitimately thought the chick was tipsy but down, banged her, then she vomited afterwards...as the news stories says is all they posted about..her vomiting afterwards. For eg, on NYE I was with the chick and some friends....one of the girls was fine all night with the group, everyone was drinking. But the next day I saw her and she was asking what she did because she was so drunk but didnt appear to be. Now, this chick didnt do anything to be embarrassed about...she was with the group all night...so its not like when a girl lies the next day to cover something. She was just that drunk she couldnt remember anything. Now if some guy had taken her home, he wont have known she was drunk, and she could very well call rape.
There's a line between a girl being a bit more social with alcohol and drunk. And I think the community forgets that sometimes. There are some girls who are drunk and fumbling, some who are drunk and can appear normal. I know I've been on some dates where the chick had one drink, she seems completely normal...couple hrs later she vomits or falls down. If I had taken her home and banged her, legally it would be rape...and the laws support that even if you had no idea. I guess what I'm saying is, when you go for the quick lays and alcohol is involved, be extra cautious. When you're pushing quick escalation, its difficult to distinguish what reactions you get based on your game, and how much she's had to drink and her tolerance. So maybe take it slow sometimes with chicks at the bar/club. Frankly, I suprised with the whole snl in clubs/bars mentality,more charges of rape aren't happening.
For eg, a recent thread here:
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Every time we need the toilet we go together and kiss whilst we're away from everyone. This happens about 3 times before we decide to go get a drink in a bar. It's new years, we're both a bit drunk but things are getting flirty. So I take her outside and we have a good old chat, make out some more then end up back at hers. She was discouraging me from coming back but we started making out as soon as we got back on the sofas. Then when everyone else got back we went up to her room. She gave me a lot of LMR, things like "I don't even like you" and "everyone will be annoyed with me" but she gave in eventually and we had some pretty wild sex. Ended it with the line "I've never had sex with someone that isn't my boyfriend before"
If this chick was drunk and he banged her, legally its rape.
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So I've got a group of friends I hang with frequently and recently one of my friends has brought two of her best friends into the group. One of the girls in particular I hit it off with from the start, only issue being she has a long term boyfriend. So I backed off because that's not my style. However one night recently we all got pretty drunk and went back to my friends. This girl was all over me, she dragged me to the bedroom to 'talk' to me, she said words to the effect of 'you understand me because you've been in a long term relationship' and basically 'I think I like you' blah blah blah. We had a little kiss and that was that.
If banged, legally rape.
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I think we never got to the building attraction phase cause of the ONS. We were both drunk that night.
Guys seem to forget that the law doesnt care if you were drunk, just that she was. And if she was that drunk, then you're putting yourself at risk. Dont put yourself in a situation where you could be arrested for an easy lay. We brush over when a guy mentions that a chick he was gaming was drunk...maybe we shouldnt?