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Author:  Diego1234567 [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Get off this Forum
If you havent done much game, get off now.


NOW!

If you're getting quite good and closing, get off now


NOW!



whoever you are, unless you literally have no idea what you're doing GET OFF NOW


maybe you have a sticking point but most of them are because of lack of effort or consistently maybe you should stay here. . .

This forum should be for questions not answers. I see so many people laying out random esoteric bullshit or recycled stuff. Some members (i wont name) who just recycle the latest buzzwords and ideas and then offer tutoring for PAYMENT!


Also most new people are just looking for a way to learn the game and some method or advice YET this entire forum is full of so much mush that there isn't any

Minus Chief's guide :)

But apart from that there's not a way to implement it or any of the other advice people talk about. This is just off the top of my head. Ive steered clear of the site for the passed few months and stop-started on game a lot but now im on a steady path.


I dont claim to know anything and this is why i say GET OFF THE FORUM!

"how dare you say that! Ban him from the forum for trying to boycott it!"

maybe but imagine if the only posts on this forum was either questions on certain situations or learning AND genuine advice, tips, tactics and strategies to get good at game. We put our ego's down and didnt post pointless shit.

I'll admit i posted loads of shit and ego crap at the beginning.

Anyway here is my game-plan for learning, take it or leave it, its probably no good as my problem is i never knew how to set up a plan to learn.


OPEN


1 o
2 o
3 o
4 o
5 o

* have planned openers, i had this in mind for daygame so "Hi, do you have the time?". "do you know where the nearest coffee shop is?"

HOOK

1 o
3 o
5 o

*attempt to close on each hook. Hook by using some form of qualification or Cold read or maybe a follow up question OR maybe a compliment and saying why you really spoke to her.

ATTEMPT CLOSE

1 o
2 o
3 o
4 o
5 o

*although you do this on the hook its more to do with the fact that you probably didnt do it for each hook but now you do, earlier you focused on how to hook but to have some random close. NOW you focus all your energy on closing; scripts, tactics or whatever.

CLOSE

1 o
2 o
3 o

*This is day game so in my small town 3 is a lot of effort. here you are just making sure you ACTUALLY get the closes and you may end up refining you technique either way this time you stay in field until you actually get the closes rather than just attempt them.

Here you might also realise how there have been so many girls who probably did like you, you just never closed or closed quick enough.


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That's my plan. So i can just tick them off as i go, only focusing on one tiny point at a time. Im also pretty certain it works for most methods if you tweak it a tiny bit.

I also couldn't open attractive girls at the beginning, fuck that, i couldn't open people. Took me so long just to say "hi" to grannies, shop keepers and asking oldies for the time before i could even open a hottie. So you may want to do a few layers of the opening -- old and ugly -- old but attractive -- ugly girls your age -- okayish girls -- fuckable girls (from here you'd move onto the hook and just increase attractiveness as you get better and more comfortable)


This is all i have to say.
Author:  madals [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:00 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
imagine if the only posts on this forum was either questions on certain situations or learning AND genuine advice
.......
Quote:
If you havent done much game, get off now.


NOW!

If you're getting quite good and closing, get off now


NOW!



whoever you are, unless you literally have no idea what you're doing GET OFF NOW
So therefore, there will be lots of questions being answered by guy who have literally no idea what they are doing?

Also:
Quote:
Some members (i wont name) who just recycle the latest buzzwords and ideas
So can you explain how you are different from the other topics ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE LOUNGE that are saying pretty much the exact same thing (get off the forum, just go and do it bla bla bla).

Don't take my response the wrong way, I agree that some people really need to just go and do something rather than just talking about doing something HOWEVER being the guy who thinks the only way to improve is to just keep doing doing doing is just as narrow minded as the guy who says the only way to improve is to keep talking, planning and reviewing. Basically, from my perspective, you need to go out and try, then come back and ask questions about what you tried and how you felt it went and then ACT upon the advice you are given and go and try to do better (repeat this process until you are happy with how good you are). Its the tried and tested method of learning skills (Learn, try, adjust) that is used in sport, education, music and every other type of learning.

Madals
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:18 pm ]
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Quote:
So therefore, there will be lots of questions being answered by guy who have literally no idea what they are doing?
No obviously people who are good at this can answer the questions but i think its fair to say 99% of the people who ask the questions dont know what they are talking about.

I dont claim to be different. But i dont think you should just 'go out there and do it'. But you should be out there doing it instead of just making friends on here or making a post, unless that post is needed to gain an answer for your next stage or problem.

Quote:
Basically, from my perspective, you need to go out and try, then come back and ask questions about what you tried and how you felt it went and then ACT upon the advice you are given and go and try to do better (repeat this process until you are happy with how good you are). Its the tried and tested method of learning skills (Learn, try, adjust) that is used in sport, education, music and every other type of learning.
exactly how i feel! as i said people should ask the questions they need, review it etc. But it seems people come on, ask a few questions then sit around giving advice. . .I dont think of this as giving advice, just an opinion.

I also seriously believe that most sticking points can be broken if you just keep at it and try what 'feels' right rather than what someone told you.

I know my post will go down with the rest of the waste in here and its not a big revelation, there's surely been similar posts before.

its just something ive noticed before and its bigger and bigger; So many posts but so few to what a dating advice site should have. Also certain members who should have been banned so long ago, looooong ago.
Author:  madals [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:27 pm ]
Post subject: 
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No obviously people who are good at this can answer the questions
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If you're getting quite good and closing, get off now
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Get off this Forum
Quote:



whoever you are, unless you literally have no idea what you're doing GET OFF NOW
and...
Quote:
Anyway here is my game-plan for learning, take it or leave it, its probably no good as my problem is i never knew how to set up a plan to learn.


OPEN


1 o
2 o
3 o
4 o
5 o

* have planned openers, i had this in mind for daygame so "Hi, do you have the time?". "do you know where the nearest coffee shop is?"

HOOK

1 o
3 o
5 o

*attempt to close on each hook. Hook by using some form of qualification or Cold read or maybe a follow up question OR maybe a compliment and saying why you really spoke to her.

ATTEMPT CLOSE

1 o
2 o
3 o
4 o
5 o

*although you do this on the hook its more to do with the fact that you probably didnt do it for each hook but now you do, earlier you focused on how to hook but to have some random close. NOW you focus all your energy on closing; scripts, tactics or whatever.

CLOSE

1 o
2 o
3 o

*This is day game so in my small town 3 is a lot of effort. here you are just making sure you ACTUALLY get the closes and you may end up refining you technique either way this time you stay in field until you actually get the closes rather than just attempt them.

Here you might also realise how there have been so many girls who probably did like you, you just never closed or closed quick enough.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's my plan. So i can just tick them off as i go, only focusing on one tiny point at a time. Im also pretty certain it works for most methods if you tweak it a tiny bit.

I also couldn't open attractive girls at the beginning, fuck that, i couldn't open people. Took me so long just to say "hi" to grannies, shop keepers and asking oldies for the time before i could even open a hottie. So you may want to do a few layers of the opening -- old and ugly -- old but attractive -- ugly girls your age -- okayish girls -- fuckable girls (from here you'd move onto the hook and just increase attractiveness as you get better and more comfortable)


This is all i have to say.
So, sense (according to you) you have an idea of what to do, we wont be seeing you anymore?

Bye.
Author:  TheNaturalPlayboy [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:01 am ]
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What you have posted doesn't make no sense at all, i suggest you go out and write down your experiences that you have encountered during your journey on the FR/LR and for others to learn from your mistakes and success ..









-TheNaturalPlayboy
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:56 am ]
Post subject: 
Quiet good and good are 2 different things, Madals. If you wanna keep pointing out things to be smart, at least read them.

And Warped Mindless, I don't come on here, very little actually maybe once a week I might check in see whats happened.

Natural Playboy, I totally agree!! FR's and LR's are my 2 favourite posts. They're what the forum is about. I write them up personally at home, I don't think anyone can learn from mine and I don't need any help as of yet, I self correct my mistakes.

MY FR's are very to the point in terms of if i accomplished my goal and then a positive evaluation of it
Author:  trixsta [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Get off this Forum
Quote:
This forum should be for questions not answers. I see so many people laying out random esoteric bullshit or recycled stuff. Some members (i wont name) who just recycle the latest buzzwords and ideas and then offer tutoring for PAYMENT!


I agree, this is bent - but I don't agree with you that anyone quite good should not be on the forums.
Author:  Dark_Flame [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:16 am ]
Post subject: 
Not sure who your trying to get rid of here. You'd end up with a load of midlevel guys not learning anything new or getting good advice and the site would die within a week.

An apt comparison would be:

Get rid of all the babies who can't walk and get rid of all the older ones who can walk.

Now watch the toddlers just starting to be able to walk muddle around for a bit and hit their heads on the coffee table.

Doesn't hurt to have a bit of help when your just starting pal, I'm sure you had the same so it's good to give some of it back.
Author:  0uch [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:44 am ]
Post subject: 
why don't you get off then if is bugging you?
Author:  Kuja [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:51 am ]
Post subject: 
Maybe we should get rid of people like shahanshah who make posts like these in the first place? It's counter-productive to say the least. Any moderators around?
Author:  $uave [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:43 am ]
Post subject: 
looks like another attempt to sound cool by being an a**holish. If you suck get off now. Well people come here in the first place because they suck. I you're good get off now-who is gonna give advices? Who is gonna help with sticking points, reviewing frs?

No disrespect, but this thread is trash IMHO.

Peace.
Author:  biggus [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:32 am ]
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I dunno about everyone else but personally, I come on this website (not sexually) when I am at work only as a way to waste the time, but the same can be said of BBC or my email all of which are automatic loaded up home pages when starting my browser. When I leave work i'll more than likely be doing other more fun shit.

As for the reason to use the website mate it is a melting pot of ideas and advice. I do not have any fianancial gain or motivation from using it. I suspect alot of other people are in the same boat as me with regards to use. I come on here to learn about situations and how to correctly deal with issues I have not had happen to me, based on the experience of other members. But you also get out what you put in so I will also try give input to situations that I have personally experienced to and how I successfully delt or unsuccessfully delt with them to help others like I get help.

You cite people spouting the same recycled rubbish, but thats what the forum is : a melting pot of ideas an experiences which you LEARN and evolve from. If people with some idea give the same advice it's probably because its worked in the past for them or for others. Even conflicting ideas fall under this category as they are just different facets or perspectives of the same game - women.

We are all unique and special snow flakes.... just like everyone else.
Author:  Tasty [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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This is debauchery!! Nonsense!

Sometimes people try to lash back at the community and make people feel bad for still hanging around when they are just uncomfortable and should leave themselves. No need to spread negative energy.

I believe there is a certain curve that goes on on these forums and chats...

Newbie: You're new, asking questions, looking for advice. Receiving value but we want to help you!
Curve going upward.

Intermediate: You're still asking questions and learning, but you also help others out. Giving and receiving value.
This is the peak of the curve where it starts to change direction.

Advanced: This is where you are primarily helping others out. Nobody ever stops learning, but you're probably not asking many questions, if any. Giving value.
Curve going downward
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:11 pm ]
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I actually typed up a massive essay about explaining it all but I felt it was a bit too "hey look at me".

This wasn't meant to offend anyone but maybe you'd be offended if you felt like it resembled you.

This is all i meant: It's sarging first THEN discussing and forums. SO if this is the case, members shouldnt be on here too often IF ANYTHING if its quiet and empty then WOOHOOO everyone is sarging!

I have respect for FR/LR's if you're posting here.

You cant sarge whilst you're posting some philosophical idea on PUA let alone fucking (if you can, please PM me your technique). Also the only person who posts random thoughts/ philosophies on here is someone who has too much time on their hands. Although there are always exceptions. Im not saying you cant have a break and enjoy a break or your newfound knowledge and experience on here but how many of us have gotten that far? I havent that's for sure.
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