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Author:  lolaskate [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  The Barney Stinson Method
Yes I know its a fictional character but I thought I would just write it out for those who might think he's a legend or something.

All data is from season 6 ep 3

Approach (A1?)

Ignore

Backhanded compliment to lower self esteem (neg?)

Brag in the form of a compliment (stealthy DHV?)

Intense eye contact (Building sexual tension)

Establish intimacy through physical contact (kino)

Take offer off the table to make target want them more (Disqualify and cat string theory?)

EDIT: boutonniere (peacock)?

A lot of lying (remind you of MM yet?)

Does this work? Does it get you laid?

Yeah sure it does apparently 200 lays in 16 years, but that is out of 16640 approaches which has an approach-fclose percentage of a little over 1%

Does MM get you laid? yes

Is it effective? not so much

Yeah the whole himym thing might have been a bit childish to compare to but still.
Author:  zebraG [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:10 pm ]
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In the first series I noticed that he was using technique that was terrible and would never work. After the first series, it began to have some elements that I recognised. I can't help but feel that the actor researched the role a little more seriously when he realised that the role would be around for a while!
Author:  Vitamin-J [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:42 pm ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
Author:  Kalel [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:20 am ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
A neg is much more complicated than that. It's actually an egoic response. A person is constantly basing who they are on how people treat and respond to them, that is the purpose of the ego, to establish one's identity through your interactions with others. When a neg is given, a person's conscious mind subsides and the ego takes over. Either the ego will take the neg as an indicator of one's status, or the ego will take it as a false assessment of one's status. So a person will therefore either accept that they are lower status, or try to prove that they are not. Either result is beneficial to a pua.

The problem with negs is that ego can also view them as personal attacks, in which case the ego will also take control, but this time with the intent to respond in kind to such a person attack. And the ego is a source of great emotion and passion, and must be dealt with carefully.

The ego is a very powerful thing, as it can supersede a person's consciousness and better judgement. If you learn how to pander to a person's ego, you can get them to do nearly anything. A lot of pua is based on ego manipulation, but is not explained as such.
Author:  Bloodninja93 [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:59 am ]
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That post was LEGEN... wait for it... DARY!!!!

Sorry but someone had to say it :wink:
Author:  ProfessorX [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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Barney is a great character but his game is based on wearing nice suits and lying his ass off.

Oh, and it also really helps to have a staff of people writing the girl's responses. I need to try that.
Author:  Vitamin-J [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
A neg is much more complicated than that. It's actually an egoic response. A person is constantly basing who they are on how people treat and respond to them, that is the purpose of the ego, to establish one's identity through your interactions with others. When a neg is given, a person's conscious mind subsides and the ego takes over. Either the ego will take the neg as an indicator of one's status, or the ego will take it as a false assessment of one's status. So a person will therefore either accept that they are lower status, or try to prove that they are not. Either result is beneficial to a pua.

The problem with negs is that ego can also view them as personal attacks, in which case the ego will also take control, but this time with the intent to respond in kind to such a person attack. And the ego is a source of great emotion and passion, and must be dealt with carefully.

The ego is a very powerful thing, as it can supersede a person's consciousness and better judgement. If you learn how to pander to a person's ego, you can get them to do nearly anything. A lot of pua is based on ego manipulation, but is not explained as such.
I think this break down, thanks kalel
Author:  lolaskate [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:28 am ]
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Barney is a great character but his game is based on wearing nice suits and lying his ass off.

Oh, and it also really helps to have a staff of people writing the girl's responses. I need to try that.
Lol and also when the targets are hired actresses.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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Give the writing staff credit, because they came up with some crazy routines. The Lorenzo Von Matterhorn? Look it up, hilarious. Neil Patrick harris is one of the funniest people on tv, but yeah it isn't something you should actually try. That character is supposed to be an exaggeration of the playboy for the sake of comedy. I mean, Barney Stinson also cheered for the Empire in Star Wars and thought they were the good guys, which is also funny, but kinda reminds us that he is a caricature.
Author:  Ownsick [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:09 pm ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
A neg is much more complicated than that. It's actually an egoic response. A person is constantly basing who they are on how people treat and respond to them, that is the purpose of the ego, to establish one's identity through your interactions with others. When a neg is given, a person's conscious mind subsides and the ego takes over. Either the ego will take the neg as an indicator of one's status, or the ego will take it as a false assessment of one's status. So a person will therefore either accept that they are lower status, or try to prove that they are not. Either result is beneficial to a pua.

The problem with negs is that ego can also view them as personal attacks, in which case the ego will also take control, but this time with the intent to respond in kind to such a person attack. And the ego is a source of great emotion and passion, and must be dealt with carefully.

The ego is a very powerful thing, as it can supersede a person's consciousness and better judgement. If you learn how to pander to a person's ego, you can get them to do nearly anything. A lot of pua is based on ego manipulation, but is not explained as such.

indeed. very wise.

you want her to qualify to you as much as possible, and having the "upper status" gives you that..

But negging is hard. Being playful usually helps :)
Author:  Olivier [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:07 pm ]
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Funny thing is though, Neil Patrick Harrison plays Barney, this huge ladies man, but in real life he is gay.

Yeah I know...I was like wut? when I found out. Shows how great an actor he is.
Author:  thakidistakingover [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:57 am ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
A neg is much more complicated than that. It's actually an egoic response. A person is constantly basing who they are on how people treat and respond to them, that is the purpose of the ego, to establish one's identity through your interactions with others. When a neg is given, a person's conscious mind subsides and the ego takes over. Either the ego will take the neg as an indicator of one's status, or the ego will take it as a false assessment of one's status. So a person will therefore either accept that they are lower status, or try to prove that they are not. Either result is beneficial to a pua.

The problem with negs is that ego can also view them as personal attacks, in which case the ego will also take control, but this time with the intent to respond in kind to such a person attack. And the ego is a source of great emotion and passion, and must be dealt with carefully.

The ego is a very powerful thing, as it can supersede a person's consciousness and better judgement. If you learn how to pander to a person's ego, you can get them to do nearly anything. A lot of pua is based on ego manipulation, but is not explained as such.
So what if a man is insulted? I mean us guys are sometimes sensitive too. Even when friends r joking around i think our ego misconstrudes some of these things. Thats why i'm trying my best to let an negativity or put downs not effect me, knowing it's the other persons problem not mine. How do you guys deal with this?
Author:  Kalel [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:17 am ]
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lol sounds like someone read the game.



I'd also like to ad that a Neg is in now designed to lower a girls self esteem. A lot of guys think it is and than don't understand why girls like to be treated like crap...it's not that they like to be treated poorly, they're just attracting the ones that do.
A neg is much more complicated than that. It's actually an egoic response. A person is constantly basing who they are on how people treat and respond to them, that is the purpose of the ego, to establish one's identity through your interactions with others. When a neg is given, a person's conscious mind subsides and the ego takes over. Either the ego will take the neg as an indicator of one's status, or the ego will take it as a false assessment of one's status. So a person will therefore either accept that they are lower status, or try to prove that they are not. Either result is beneficial to a pua.

The problem with negs is that ego can also view them as personal attacks, in which case the ego will also take control, but this time with the intent to respond in kind to such a person attack. And the ego is a source of great emotion and passion, and must be dealt with carefully.

The ego is a very powerful thing, as it can supersede a person's consciousness and better judgement. If you learn how to pander to a person's ego, you can get them to do nearly anything. A lot of pua is based on ego manipulation, but is not explained as such.
So what if a man is insulted? I mean us guys are sometimes sensitive too. Even when friends r joking around i think our ego misconstrudes some of these things. Thats why i'm trying my best to let an negativity or put downs not effect me, knowing it's the other persons problem not mine. How do you guys deal with this?
That's you being aware of your ego. Awareness of your ego is the only way to control it, but it is very difficult because it is such a prevalent part of your psychology, that it will often reemerge in new and different ways when you try to control it. But it is very good to keep your ego under control. But you can't expect others to do the same. You just have to accept them as they are, egoism and all.
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