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Texting Instead of Calling

Does he text more often than he calls? When a guy likes a girl, he wants to hear her voice. "Texting is not an easy way to communicate — it's an easy way to avoid communication," says Mike."

He's Never on Time

He finds reasons to blow you off or be late more times than not. Maybe he's just flaky or disorganized, you say? Don't make excuses. If a guy likes you and wants to continue hanging out with you, he'll find a way to do so. Adds Mike: "I'll come in to work one hour early if I want to get off in time to pick up cooking ingredients for a dinner date with someone I like."

His Ex Is Still In the Picture

He talks to his ex-girlfriends. Nothing makes a guy forget his ex like a girl he wants to be with. If he continues talking with an ex, that's the first sign that he's either not over a prior girlfriend or he's just not that in to you.

He Doesn't Introduce You to His Friends

He should be proud of you, want to show you off and want to include you in his life.

Complete Absence of PDA

He avoids even minor instances of intimacy in public. "Listen, not all guys are comfortable with PDA. Not everyone likes to make out for the whole world to see. But when I really like someone, no matter what I'm generally comfortable doing, I'll at least put my arm around her and give her a kiss on the cheek."

No Mentions of Future Plans Together

He doesn't use the pronoun "we" or use it in the future tense. If he talks about a great new restaurant he discovered, but doesn't add, "We should go there sometime" — and maybe he just says "I go there a lot" — then he's not interested in sharing things with you. Plus: "Guys who are into girls want to explore with them — not sit on the couch on every date," says Mike.

Lack of Kindness

He doesn't do something sweet for you at least once a week. That doesn't mean he's buying you a dozen roses but he should have said or done something that made you go "Aw!" in the last seven days.

Shows No Interest In People You Love

He doesn't ask questions about your family and friends.

He Doesn't Suggest or Plan Dates

What if he doesn't initiate at least 80% of the things you do together? "I call this the 80/20 rule," explains Mike. "When I don't like a girl, the 80% drops significantly. I'm not even aware of it. I'll get off the phone and never close the conversation with a set of plans." Note that it doesn't have to be exact plans, but it should at least be, "Let's hang out later this week and we'll do dinner. I'll call you tomorrow."

Important Dates Don't Resonate for Him

He doesn't remember your one month anniversary.

Radio Silence on His Facebook Page

Has he posted a picture of you together on Facebook within two months of the first date? Guys who are excited about you will post and tag your beautiful face!

Okay. Hopefully I didn't depress you. But the message here is, if you want a relationship with someone and he's acting out the above list, move on. I don't believe in "waiting it out" or "breaking him down" so he will "come around." Don't put up with someone who semi-likes you. Date someone who is dying to be with you. (You will find him — but you have to know you deserve it!!)

Author:	Gaius [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:26 pm ]
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It's dumb articles like this that make the world a worse place. Maybe women are less emotionally intelligent than the PUA world makes them. Maybe women are just as clueless as men . http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/ ... d=26466431 I think this is the one that got me. Lack of Kindness He doesn't do something sweet for you at least once a week. That doesn't mean he's buying you a dozen roses but he should have said or done something that made you go "Aw!" in the last seven days. Wow...

Author:	BMaster [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:02 pm ]
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That article is a load of shit.

Author:	TheFreshPrince [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:15 pm ]
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What a load of bull. It's simply stuff women want to hear. "Mike" is clearly a dick.

Author:	robizeratul [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:42 pm ]
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Quote: What a load of bull. It's simply stuff women want to hear. "Mike" is clearly a dick. Most women are frustrated chumps,difference is,they can still get sex.but they can't get what they really need,emotion

Author:	TheFreshPrince [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:02 pm ]
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Interesting way of putting it...

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Author:	robizeratul [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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Quote: Interesting way of putting it... That's my opinion i think.The roles reversed. Average girls can't get emotions,a relationships...because they don't know how to handle a relationships and have a lot of stupid ideas in they're head.BUT they can get a dick at any time...they don't want that(most of them) average guys can't get pussy,because they don't know how to handle a women,they to lie to themselves and have stupid ideas .BUT (most) will get relationships and intense emotions with girls because they attach to much... Both sexes loose,while 10%? maybe get what they want and we are always told we are the 10%...until we see that it's not that simple

Author:	Jav [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:14 am ]
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So I am the only one this article is pretty fucking accurate? Quote: Texting Instead of Calling Does he text more often than he calls? When a guy likes a girl, he wants to hear her voice. "Texting is not an easy way to communicate — it's an easy way to avoid communication," says Mike." Remember we say: 'call, don't text'? Quote: He's Never on Time He finds reasons to blow you off or be late more times than not. Maybe he's just flaky or disorganized, you say? Don't make excuses. If a guy likes you and wants to continue hanging out with you, he'll find a way to do so. Adds Mike: "I'll come in to work one hour early if I want to get off in time to pick up cooking ingredients for a dinner date with someone I like." If someone finds a reason not to hang out with you, it's a bad sign anyways. Remember the girl that told you she was 'busy'? Quote: His Ex Is Still In the Picture He talks to his ex-girlfriends. Nothing makes a guy forget his ex like a girl he wants to be with. If he continues talking with an ex, that's the first sign that he's either not over a prior girlfriend or he's just not that in to you. Even I chuckled at this one. Refusing to believe it. But yeah.... Quote: He Doesn't Introduce You to His Friends He should be proud of you, want to show you off and want to include you in his life. Unless you're a bhuddist monk who's not out for some validation (granted you've know your 'mates' for a long ass time). Atleast I want my mates to go along fine with my GEE-EFF. Quote: Complete Absence of PDA He avoids even minor instances of intimacy in public. "Listen, not all guys are comfortable with PDA. Not everyone likes to make out for the whole world to see. But when I really like someone, no matter what I'm generally comfortable doing, I'll at least put my arm around her and give her a kiss on the cheek." Again, this goes both ways. THE TRUTH IS HARSH GUYS. Girls do stupid, AFC stuff. So much is righ, we do the same stupid, AFC stuff. But why do we always expect girls to make the 'right&honest' decisions? Whether they like you or not? Quote: No Mentions of Future Plans Together He doesn't use the pronoun "we" or use it in the future tense. If he talks about a great new restaurant he discovered, but doesn't add, "We should go there sometime" — and maybe he just says "I go there a lot" — then he's not interested in sharing things with you. Plus: "Guys who are into girls want to explore with them — not sit on the couch on every date," says Mike. This one contains a great idea for a date with the 'us vs. the world' mentality. Come on guys.............. Quote: Lack of Kindness He doesn't do something sweet for you at least once a week. That doesn't mean he's buying you a dozen roses but he should have said or done something that made you go "Aw!" in the last seven days. women don't get off about the 'price' or 'effort' you did for getting her something, like men would. They get off about, indeed, the little things. Like holding the door open, or telling she looks great. Quote: Shows No Interest In People You Love He doesn't ask questions about your family and friends. This is just something you might run into when talking with a girl. And why not show some interest? DO YOU GUYS EVEN TALK TO GIRLS? Quote: He Doesn't Suggest or Plan Dates What if he doesn't initiate at least 80% of the things you do together? "I call this the 80/20 rule," explains Mike. "When I don't like a girl, the 80% drops significantly. I'm not even aware of it. I'll get off the phone and never close the conversation with a set of plans." Note that it doesn't have to be exact plans, but it should at least be, "Let's hang out later this week and we'll do dinner. I'll call you tomorrow." come on guys....... You should always be trying to set something up. Quote: Important Dates Don't Resonate for Him He doesn't remember your one month anniversary. Can't disagree or agree with this Quote: Radio Silence on His Facebook Page Has he posted a picture of you together on Facebook within two months of the first date? Guys who are excited about you will post and tag your beautiful face! Nah, IF anything I'll disagree with this. But that's maybe because facebook isn't as huge in my country and I don't care much about facebook anyways. Quote: Okay. Hopefully I didn't depress you. But the message here is, if you want a relationship with someone and he's acting out the above list, move on. I don't believe in "waiting it out" or "breaking him down" so he will "come around." Don't put up with someone who semi-likes you. Date someone who is dying to be with you. (You will find him — but you have to know you deserve it!!) Same goes for guys.

Author:	AFC Royal [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:58 am ]
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First off, I want to thank Jav for starting us in the right direction. Some of the article is just plain common sense, whereas the other part is "trite, but true", in my mind, anyway. It's kind of like the saying, "just be yourself". We originally think that it's bullshit, but then we realize that it's correct, in a sense. Same thing with these tips. They are, in a sense, correct, but we're rather quick to dismiss them, simply because they're part of the common mindset.

Author:	Gaius [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:29 pm ]
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I thought and continue to think the article is complete hogwash. This article assumes that in order to have a good relationship a woman needs to be the center of a man's world, the dumbest shit ever and in fact the polar opposite of a healthy relationship. Just because a man hasn't said "aw" in the past week doesn't mean he does not care for you. This article is simply a dumb ploy to taint the minds of otherwise healthy and free-minded women. It’s garbage and it pollutes the mind. The article isn't very accurate Jav. There are certain points I agree with - Texting Instead of Calling- Means I don't wanna talk, I'm not interested, or I'm too scared. - He's never on time- Yeah means I don't wanna kick it. - Doesn't Suggest Plans or Dates- Don't wanna kick it even more. -Important Dates- yeah I'll agree, but a one month anniversary? Seriously wtf, grow up woman. Do you know how many women will freak out and panic because they read this and their bf's accidentally forgot about their one month anniversary? Now one year anniversaries, birthdays, holidays, special family events, etc. That's some shit you remember, not some dumb one month anniversary, that is seriously for high school kids . -His Ex is in the picture The rest of the points are absolute garbage especially. - Radio Silence on his Facebook Page- This sounds like a paranoid ass woman seeking validation to me. The fact I gotta post her on my facebook page. This is for all intents and purposes insane. - He hasn't said "aw" to you in a week. - He doesn't take you around his friends? Unless you play WOW all day you don't need to prove you have a gf. Cool take her out with your buddies every once in a while to kick it. But I think low of men whose sole mission is to display their woman. Just seems to me he has something to prove for him self. The bottom line is men have complex lives too. Women need to chill the fuck out and give shit some time. A smart guy isn't gonna fall boot heals for a woman because she's throwing out or kissing him in public. Just like her, we have multiple options and we will decide which option fits us best. I hear a lot of guys say they have a "policy". I think that's kinda lame. But I do have a general rule for my self. Usually after 3 or 4 months we are still taking things steady and moving forward then I'll introduce her to my friends and family and expect the same from her. How do you know a woman is not crazy as fuck, clingy, or just way out there? Truth is you don't. How do you know that once a woman has you she won't go crazy? Sorry man this article must've been made for girls and boys who attend prep schools. Where I come from if a woman was this paranoid all the time and didn't let shit roll it's a sign that she's looking to hook, sink, and trap a man in an unwanted relationship. Where I'm from women will break your condoms just to trap your ass with a child thinking your still gonna be there. I've seen this shit happen too many times. I think the article is complete BS because the point of view that it is spoken from teaches women to be paranoid and insecure and watch for every little detail that may or may not mean something. I think it would be better if glamour stop posting idiot adds and actually put some real useful relationship advice that would both enhance the woman and the man's experience. Men don't have a damn clue and women don't have one either. I don't know maybe it's just me but the world is moving too fast and sooner or later it's gonna fall on its own ass. May that's what's best...

Author:	TheFreshPrince [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:56 pm ]
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I agree, Jav and Royal, that it makes some valid points. But I'm also looking at the purpose of the article, and its implications, and I know for a fact that many AFC friends of mine who have beautiful relationships right now would lose them if their partners believed this garbage. I think this article creates false expectations. Plus it ignores real communication, like talking about where the relationship is headed, instead of assuming based on some obtuse ideas the author and Mike had. And speaking of Mike, he sounds like a douche simply because he says "these are the indirect signals I send that women should pick up on to know I don't really care about this relationship." Why would you do that? You should have a frame already set up of where this relation is going, unless you've only known each other/been dating for a little while, in which case these "signals" don't mean anything.

Author:	Wazzer [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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Well if they do, it's a plus for us. The more wimmin immerse themselves in stuff like these and the more men thinking badly of the PUA community, the more wimmin to take the bait.

Author:	Don Draper [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:02 pm ]
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Quote: So I am the only one this article is pretty fucking accurate? No. I found all the points to be correct. The problem with most men is that they get emotional about such articles and tend to dismiss them upon reading the third or fourth line. The author has made points which are pretty common sense. And they are also right. Every one of them. Agreed, the delivery could have been a bit mature but come on, he's writing for women. Most of who believe in sex with vampires and all that crap. Instead of calling this article a load of crap, read it the second time without getting riled up. It makes sense.

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