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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:11 pm 
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Spoken like a true AFC. You do not know what you are talking about.
Stop giving poor and counterproductive advice to people on this board.
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Don't worry bro, you'll catch on one day with enough trial and error.

In the meantime enjoy your forays into the shallow water.

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I have to admit, I agree with Valence here. Of course, this type of game may work for you, but it definitely wouldn't work for a bad looking guy. A lot of times the HBs at club/bars aren't going to stare at you and give you an opening. Trust me, I've been solo sarging for the last two months, and I've had the best success when I just go up to and talk to every girl/group I can. It's counter productive to sit against the bar like a tool all night. They want the fun, outgoing guy, and you need to show them that you are him.

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I have to admit, I agree with Valence here. Of course, this type of game may work for you, but it definitely wouldn't work for a bad looking guy. A lot of times the HBs at club/bars aren't going to stare at you and give you an opening. Trust me, I've been solo sarging for the last two months, and I've had the best success when I just go up to and talk to every girl/group I can. It's counter productive to sit against the bar like a tool all night. They want the fun, outgoing guy, and you need to show them that you are him.
Maybe we're having a misunderstanding here...

If you've followed my posts you'll see that I specifically state not to act like a wallflower that's oblivious to what's going on around you. You take action when you choose and when opportunities present themselves. This can mean different things depending upon the situation.

On the other hand being pushy and working the bar without a degree of social awareness is the opposite extreme. A lot of guys just don't know when they're not welcome, they try to hang around longer than they should, seemingly oblivious to the obvious signals they are being given which can adversely effect their future opportunities or their rep. Or they can just be labeled an obnoxious creep. Once that happens you might as well find a new place to hang out.

A happy medium is of course to gather a little intelligence about the situation and the clientèle before diving into a new social situation. Especially in a bar.

Younger guys will typically need to be 'slightly' more aggressive, older guys not so much so.

Let me just say this kind of stuff is covered extensively in Mike Pilinski's 'Without embarrassment'. And I highly recommend everyone get a copy if you want to learn how the game is played beyond the basics. It's some of the best stuff I've read (I worked bars and strip clubs, alone, for the better part of two decades) out there concerning these issues and the inside scoop on what's occurring when it comes to social interaction. I've had everything from women on their knees in a corner of the bar, tonging strippers in g strings during their routines, to being escorted out the door for picking up and bangin' the owners girlfriend. To being disgusted with the whole scene at 35, after dating a 19 year old stripper and promising myself I'd never step foot in another singles bar.

http://www.highstatusmale.com/Mike Pilinski

Scroll down the page and you can see Mike is anything but physically attractive. He's short also. You'd be lucky to have him as a wing. And his stuff is far more than the typical, walk into the place like you own it, grab a girl, kiss her, then leave with her on your arm.

But then use what works for you. There is no one strategy that works for every guy in every situation. Nor is this a religion. And what may work for a group of high school or college girls in their late teens early '20's can make you look like a complete ass if tried on professional career women in their late 20's, early 30's, etc... If you can find one strategy that works every time for every girl, in all age groups and in every situation you should write a book.

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well I suffer from approach anxiety here and there still and most my boys are top notch AFCs, the types of dudes who go up to a girl, tell her how beautiful she is and offer to buy a drink, 2 mins later she's trying to find a way to get the fuck away from them... so I go out alone a lot and the easiest way I've found is to open the guys in a group... "hey man, im doin fantasy football, should I start Manning or Brady this week??"
befriend the dudes and tell them to introduce you, you're already socially proofed by the guys with the group and start to find out what girls are single... after that start you're routine, pay attention to her friends, neg her and just go with it... its so much easier to open a set on guys than girls, if the guys are cool with you they'll kind of wing you with the group sometimes..

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