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Author:  guesss [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Natural vs mPUA
Please post a reason after you have voted
Author:  BartlebyWallaceIV [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:07 am ]
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I voted master because of the implied level of skill but I'd like to note that these terms shouldn't be considered mutually exclusive.
Author:  KennyShizzle [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:24 am ]
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Natural because routines don't work on every type of girl. One routine that might be gold for one girl might come off as creepy to another girl. When Naturally gaming you sort of live in the moment and every interaction isn't the same. Usually masters of Natural Game have the most inner game and self confidence while people who used canned material do so because they need order in order to progress, so to me Naturals the way to go
Author:  Asmodai [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:25 am ]
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I chose mastery. Mastery requires hard work, dedication, and refining yourself. It builds a depth of character than no natural could dream of having. A master seducer of equal skill to a phenomenal natural is, in character, vastly superior in the same way that a self-made man is vastly superior to the heir of an old money family.

After giving that some thought, when you look at it from this perspective, would you rather be a natural fighter, or Bruce Lee?
Author:  lolaskate [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:55 am ]
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I believe that even if your a natural, learning pua will be a benefit, learning a bit about the psychological side of women and the loopholes. mPUA :D
Author:  KennyShizzle [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:04 am ]
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Natural game doesn't mean your a "natural" at gaming at all. It just means not using canned material, being comfortable in your own skin to come up with some things on the spot instead of using a routine.
Author:  relaxed [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:15 pm ]
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Master, because I get way more satisfaction from pulling chicks now that I practice pua than before. I feel like I "earned" it more, or that I only get what I get because of the practice I've put in. Feels rewarding.
Author:  guesss [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:34 pm ]
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thanks for the input guys. Here's why i asked the question. read it and you may understand the dilema that may face newbies to PUA that have natural game. This will give perspective to guys that haven't seen this post yet

viewtopic.php?p=486715#486715
Author:  Mantis- [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:07 pm ]
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Natural does not mean u can't be a mpua.
I basicly see myself as natural with a few tips and tricks that you guys (assuming u use canned material only?) use like the cube and 5 lies routine.
Still, i'll vote for natural because I dont like stacking canned material.
Author:  KennyShizzle [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:12 pm ]
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I basicly see myself as natural with a few tips and tricks that you guys (assuming u use canned material only?) use like the cube and 5 lies routine.
Exactly like me. I use some of the tricks you guys use (neg, dhv) but I'm still natural because it comes to me naturally, i don't have to think about what's coming next.. Again, "natural" doesn't mean you were just born with game and you use it, natural in this case means not using a routine/stacked material and going with the flow. Trust me i had to work to become natural.

Also i dont like mPUA because I found myself with a problem every time: After I finished a routine, I went cold. Ex; I'd use a canned opener and whether it went my way or not I didn't know what to do next or if they went in a different direction than i wanted to go then I was stumped. I also thought way too much about what i was going to say which ruined my approach. The key to game many people don't get is inner game, if you have good inner game/confidence/self worth & love then you don't need a "routine" or you dont need to "palm read" or learn silly magic tricks or anything.
Author:  ProfessorX [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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To me it's a no-brainer. If you're lucky enough to be a natural with women, count your lucky stars and go play! The naturals I know don't really like to read much (or at all), breaking down the interactions would just seem silly to them. You talk to her, you fuck her, what's the big deal?

PUA routines can often come across as canned or awkward. Even when you master them it's still not really you doing it. Naturals have an innate ability to deal with a woman on a sexual level, it's something the pickup community can't seem to teach or really even grasp.

Now, if interactions with women don't come natural to you, the pickup community has a lot to teach you. But being naturally good with women is a gift and a blessing.
Author:  Kobe Bryant [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:01 am ]
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Definitely natural.

A PUA goal should be to eventually become a natural... that's the highest level.
Author:  KennyShizzle [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:55 pm ]
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Some people don't understand what it means to be Natural

Being natural isn't being born to be good with women but not knowing a damn thing about pick up, being natural is knowing the game so well you don't have to follow a routine or think hard at all when it comes to DHVing, opening, how to escalate and those things.
Author:  Defy [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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I chose mastery. Mastery requires hard work, dedication, and refining yourself. It builds a depth of character than no natural could dream of having. A master seducer of equal skill to a phenomenal natural is, in character, vastly superior in the same way that a self-made man is vastly superior to the heir of an old money family.
AMEN!
Author:  Defy [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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Being natural is knowing the game so well you don't have to follow a routine or think hard at all when it comes to DHVing, opening, how to escalate and those things.
NO, that just means having a good calibration.
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