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Author:  Byzantine [ Thu May 19, 2011 2:33 am ]
Post subject:  NSA
Edit: I feel noob again, I just searched for the topic and found lots of stuff :P

Now I've been toying with a couple ideas, have any of you just gone up to a woman and offered NSA sex? We're both adults, all this useless bullshit in between just seems like a waste of precious life time. I have no problem approaching but I'd like to have a coherent offer to spit out. This city is BUSTING with beautiful women but I feel like Im not framing things the right way from the beginning.

Thanks in advance, I hope everyone's having a productive spring.
Author:  Brah [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NSA
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Now I've been toying with a couple ideas, have any of you just gone up to a woman and offered NSA sex? We're both adults, all this useless bullshit in between just seems like a waste of precious life time. I have no problem approaching but I'd like to have a coherent offer to spit out. This city is BUSTING with beautiful women but I feel like Im not framing things the right way from the beginning.

Thanks in advance, I hope everyone's having a productive spring.
Yes, it's been discussed in many books, forums, etc. Here's an example:

http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... se-opener/

p.s., it's a terrible idea.
Author:  Fin [ Thu May 19, 2011 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NSA
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Edit: I feel noob again, I just searched for the topic and found lots of stuff :P

Now I've been toying with a couple ideas, have any of you just gone up to a woman and offered NSA sex? We're both adults, all this useless bullshit in between just seems like a waste of precious life time. I have no problem approaching but I'd like to have a coherent offer to spit out. This city is BUSTING with beautiful women but I feel like Im not framing things the right way from the beginning.

Thanks in advance, I hope everyone's having a productive spring.
Yes, it's been discussed in many books, forums, etc. Here's an example:

http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... se-opener/

p.s., it's a terrible idea.
p.s. Don't have such a sore bum! :)

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Plenty of people have found these strategies to work wonders, you can JUST do this method, but its more versatile if you get laid or pull with it once or twice, then once you're competant with it, work its strategies into a wider PU style.

Learning how to use tension to my advantage with Shock n Awe really brought my usual conversation game on to a new level.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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"Hi, don't take this the wrong way, but you look fucking sexy and I want to get to know you."

If you start with a sexual frame and continue on that level, then the girls that are down to fuck that night will respond appropriately.

Badboy estimates about 15% of any nightclub is women who are there to have sex that night. The trick is picking your targets and being confident and congruent about what you want.
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:32 pm ]
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Ah the apocalypse opener, the epitome of pick up :)
Author:  Byzantine [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:29 pm ]
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The apocalypse is great but I didnt specify I run mostly day game so its a lot more fcking scary and lacks tact at a park etc, I walk my dog every evening and run @the park mostly everyday, but I like Ryan's reply, all it takes might be 1 word into the sentence that triggers that.

I guess what I should keep in mind is that its a number's game and the worst they can say is no, I looooooove the fact that in this city, most beautiful women I see are by themselves, awesome for discrete game and non-verbal.

Keep the ideas coming, any more day game sentences that include that bit of sex in it? Also I have to translate from english to spanish so not everything sounds as good in spanish as it does in english, so my options are more limited :D
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Fri May 20, 2011 11:10 am ]
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Firstly, that is NOT the apocalypse opener. It's just a normal DIRECT opener.

Second, if you're doing daygame, it's quite difficult to pull straight from the street or coffee shop to your house - girls have legitimate shit to do during the day and logistics will be hard, that's why it's better to have a fun 5 minute interaction, and then see her another time for a date when she's actually prepared to sit down and give you her attention for the evening.

A more sexual direct daygame opener could be

"Hi, I know this is a bit random, but I saw you walking past and I just had to say, you have the most incredibly sexy ass I've ever seen, and I had to come meet you. I'm ___, what's your name?"

or, whatever part of her you think is really attractive, and use things like "fucking sexy."

Believe me, when she put those clothes on in the morning and took a look at herself in the mirror, she was thinking "I look hot!" and it's OK to tell her!
Author:  Brah [ Fri May 20, 2011 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NSA
Quote:

p.s. Don't have such a sore bum! :)

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Plenty of people have found these strategies to work wonders, you can JUST do this method, but its more versatile if you get laid or pull with it once or twice, then once you're competant with it, work its strategies into a wider PU style.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with being super direct and telling a girl you think she's hot, and that you two should go back to your place to keep drinking, or to keep dancing (especially if it's late at night at a bar or a club). That is just being direct.
But what i'm saying is the "Hey, you look cute. Let's go fuck, no strings attached." Is a stupid pickup line. Yes, once in a while a girl will agree, but so what? Those exact same girls who respond to that line also respond to the more sly 5 minutes of gaming followed by the "let's go back to my place and have a drink" without explicitly acknowledging that you're going to go fuck. So just by running a little game and being a LITTLE less direct about the "sex" part, you will bag all the same girls, and then also infinite more as well. You're going to turn off wayyy too many otherwise cool and fun girls by directly stating your intentions to have sex.
I've found the most successful tool is to just framing the GIRL as the sexual aggressor, and playing a game along the lines of "let's go back to my place and drink, but behave yourself, keep your hands off me, I don't put out on the first date" type approach. When you invite them back for a drink or to dance, they KNOW it's to have sex, but for some weird reason, they just don't want you to say it.
Author:  Byzantine [ Fri May 20, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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Thanks, I agree that the number of closes will increase by playing the game a little more, but I definitely need to frame in sex way earlier and faster than I have been, all these women have tried to introduce me to their mothers before having sex ~__~

Correct me if Im wrong but I get a very sensual vibe from the girls jogging around the park in those sexy yoga pants, is it the dopamine? or sweat? of course its a good excuse to shower together ;)

So which is the real Apocalypse opener Ryan?
Author:  Fin [ Fri May 20, 2011 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NSA
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"Hey, you look cute. Let's go fuck, no strings attached." Is a stupid pickup line. Yes, once in a while a girl will agree, but so what? Those exact same girls who respond to that line also respond to the more sly 5 minutes of gaming followed by the "let's go back to my place and have a drink" without explicitly acknowledging that you're going to go fuck.
This is where your line is falling down.

With an Apocalypse opener you are not looking for "Yes lets go back!"

You're just looking for tension, raised heart beat and a re-action that you can work with. The real game comes with getting that and then working with that so that you can seduce.

Takes just as much skill to work an apoc opener as it does to open with "Nice hat, I'm guessing you're a Summery girl? :)"
Author:  Byzantine [ Sat May 21, 2011 9:32 pm ]
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what do you guys know about Alan Roger Currie (Mode One)? I enjoyed the small interviews I've heard of him, it makes sense O.o
Author:  notneedy [ Sun May 22, 2011 6:32 pm ]
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The Apocalypsis http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... se-opener/

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all these women have tried to introduce me to their mothers before having sex ~__~
I know what do u mean, What I see from here is that u are not having the right frame. Maybe you are not escalating or creating the right Sexual Tension. Girls see you as a potencial partner and may want something serious and they follow the cultural rules all the way to a relation. Thats okay, but if you are not looking for that, you have to be from the first moment you meet her, very sexual.

Thats why the Apocalypsis works . Tension, Tension.

She will know what are u looking for and she will not intruduce to their mother, okay maybe after some really good sex ;)


See Ya

Notneedy
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon May 23, 2011 9:39 am ]
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what do you guys know about Alan Roger Currie (Mode One)? I enjoyed the small interviews I've heard of him, it makes sense O.o
He's great and has really influenced me

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