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Author:  Brah [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Don't be so worried about getting put in the "Friend Zone"
There are so many posts on here about the dreaded "friend zone" and how it is the death knell for everything. Once in the friend zone, you can never get back! Then all is lost!

Maybe I'm a glass is half-full kind of guy, but I don't think it's such a bad thing. In fact, a good PUA -NEEDS- hot girls to friend zone him. Here are two major benefits to having a few hot girls friend zone you:

1) Have her introduce you to her friends. This new hot friend opens up a whole new social circle for you. Have her invite you to her parties, or even have her set you up on a blind date with her cutest single friend. If you play your cards right, you can use her as major social proof with all of her friends.

2) Invite her out to bars or clubs with you. Again, use her as social proof to pick up other girls. Already have girls for this? The more the merrier! A guy showing up with 3 hot girls to the bar is wayyy more attractive than the guy showing up with 1 hot friend. It's AFC Adam's "entourage" theory. Hot girls who friend zone you should become part of your entourage.


Anyway, I just wanted to spark some discussion about how you should use the "Friend zone" to your advantage, and how every single guy should have a few hot girls in his friend zone.
Author:  samex [ Sun May 08, 2011 6:36 pm ]
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I was just thinking about this earlier, and was thinking about all the benefits of getting put in the "friend zone" or having girls as friends.
Before I say some of the amazing benefits of the "friend zone", one thing has to pointed out first.

If you really like the girl and she puts you in the friend zone, then just leave it alone. Its hard to suppress feelings on all levels, physical, emotional and spiritual. You don't want to do that to yourself or her.

But if were past that feeling and you come to know that she is just going to be a friend. Then let the good times roll.

Like Brah already said, the benefits of going to bars with hot girls is just ridiculous. Its like carrying Kryptonite while fighting superman. But besides all the benefits of meeting girls easier and getting hooked up, the greatest benefit I find is that you get to have a girl's perspective on shit.

When a girl is comfortable around you and gives you honest advice, it's like pure gold. It's something to really appreciate. My girl slash friend always has a way of advising me in situations where sometimes my guy friends aren't as useful.

Last, but not least the best benefit of being friend zoned is that you can just be yourself around this chick. There's no sexual tension, your not always "on game", and you have nothing to prove.

Remember champions always find a way to make things work for them, rather then against them.

Peace
Author:  Jav [ Sun May 08, 2011 6:41 pm ]
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Being friends with girls is no shame. But guys, we're missing the point here.

Why does it sucks to be put in the friendzone? Because this wasn't your original goal. It's the good 'ole 'let's just be friends'.


And it sucks. No matter how hot the girl is, you shouldn't be put into anything. Or you might hand in your balls aswell.


I think it's the biggest 'flaw' of today. People are so eager to be put wherever someone thinks they belong, without any regards to whatever you want for yourself. Herp derp, friendship is fine!

It sucks for your self-esteem. Don't bullshit yourself. Don't bullshit your desires.
Author:  prodical21 [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:11 pm ]
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Friend Zone

It is officially the worst zone to be in. Yes you get the benefit of having a hot entourage if and i stress the IF they come out with you.
And when they do they judge your choice and your actions.

I have been placed in many a friend zone only cause we knew a relationship wouldn't work in the situation but even so its more of a kick to the nuts then anything else
Author:  Newfoundman [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:21 pm ]
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Also, don't let a bevy of female "friends" turn into a gaggle of squawking hens you have no control over, else you'll just be that harmless guy that accompanies their girl's night out.
Author:  TheBison [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:50 pm ]
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Am I the only one who thinks that the friend zone isn't necessarily all its cracked up to be

I don't know, maybe its because I flirt with my friends all the time and try some of my lines on them that I don't view the friend zone as being impossible to get out of. One of my best friends thats a girl has a boyfriend and I had the opportunity to do some stuff with her the other month but I didn't go too far because she has a boyfriend. I thought I was in the so called "Friend-zone" forever, but if you have a high enough value in the girls eye and there is legitimate chemistry then you are never there forever. All it takes it the right moment, and until then don't treat the girl like you would any other male friend.
Author:  Brah [ Mon May 09, 2011 7:06 pm ]
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There's also 2 different kind of "friend" and this should be recognized.

1) Where she actually wants to be friends with you (good kind!)

2) Where she is telling you "let's just be friends" because she isn't interested in you, isn't attracted to you, and it's just a euphemism for "leave me alone".

My post was directed to the first kind of friend, the ACTUAL "friend zone" :P But I feel like some people on these forums often seem to confuse the two and misinterpret "let's just be friends" as being put in the friend zone, when it's not... it's just her telling you to screw off and you're not actually being put in the friends-zone.
Author:  Heffty [ Mon May 09, 2011 11:51 pm ]
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Being friends with girls is no shame. But guys, we're missing the point here.

Why does it sucks to be put in the friendzone? Because this wasn't your original goal. It's the good 'ole 'let's just be friends'.
This hits the nail on the head.
Author:  JOHNNYBOY29 [ Tue May 10, 2011 9:05 am ]
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I have a friend who I am totally totally not attracted to. I have never met anyone, who is attractive, who I wouldnt "fuck" except her.

We hang out, she gives me advice on women etc etc etc. Awesome girl and someone who I am totally not interested in. Thats not a friends zone though thats actual friends.

The friends zone? Never had someone tell me "lets just be friends" but maybe words to that effect and it is fucking horrible but horrible because we didnt start out as friends. We liked each other I just didnt escalate and became a fucking cunt and woos around and towards her. I got too emotional. Anyways I learnt from that.

Her and I still talk occasionally and maybe there is something there in the future but not now.
Author:  spandrel [ Tue May 10, 2011 9:32 am ]
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I never really understood this.

I have a whole lot of females who won't see me in person because they know if they do they'll end up on all fours.

Kino and confidence are extremely powerful, the combination is almost like rape.
Author:  Brah [ Tue May 10, 2011 11:12 pm ]
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I never really understood this.

I have a whole lot of females who won't see me in person because they know if they do they'll end up on all fours.

Kino and confidence are extremely powerful, the combination is almost like rape.
Yes, of course you could still have them, but my point is you should purposefully not bone them for a reason. Because you're better off actually not boning some hot girls and keeping them around for entourage and other purposes. I think I've made the mistake of boning every hot girl I can, when I should recognize that some hot girls I should pre-emptively friend zone instead of boning.
Author:  aidenfuckingbaker [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:26 am ]
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There's also 2 different kind of "friend" and this should be recognized.

1) Where she actually wants to be friends with you (good kind!)

2) Where she is telling you "let's just be friends" because she isn't interested in you, isn't attracted to you, and it's just a euphemism for "leave me alone".

My post was directed to the first kind of friend, the ACTUAL "friend zone" :P But I feel like some people on these forums often seem to confuse the two and misinterpret "let's just be friends" as being put in the friend zone, when it's not... it's just her telling you to screw off and you're not actually being put in the friends-zone.
Exactly. The first kind I think can also lead into being fuck buddys later as she likes you but just doesnt want a relationship. Simply put she still has to be attracted to you because no way you can get with her friends unless you have her approval right? I think also that there barely is a time when shes not attracted to you and shell have you "stick around" so for this first kind shes most likely just shy about it or on the edge somehow but shes feeling something! So you still have to make it a goal to not be put in the friend zone. You can do it to her but not her to you and even if she is this first kind wouldnt that hurt your value? I dont think she would actually say it come on because anytime someone speaks those words you know what they have in mind and thats REJECTION. So I think this is good for inner game like a way to handle it if it does happen but most likely if she says that shes rejecting you and your time is better spent on the next girl. Game over. Restart. Lol
Author:  here2play [ Sat May 14, 2011 5:31 pm ]
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There's also 2 different kind of "friend" and this should be recognized.

1) Where she actually wants to be friends with you (good kind!)

2) Where she is telling you "let's just be friends" because she isn't interested in you, isn't attracted to you, and it's just a euphemism for "leave me alone".

My post was directed to the first kind of friend, the ACTUAL "friend zone" :P But I feel like some people on these forums often seem to confuse the two and misinterpret "let's just be friends" as being put in the friend zone, when it's not... it's just her telling you to screw off and you're not actually being put in the friends-zone.
I totally agree with you on this post. If you are actually in the #1 position use it to your advantage and have her wingwoman/pivot you.

Never stop the teasing, flirting, innuendos, kino etc. The worst thing you can do if someone friendzones you is to put your tail between your legs and walk away.

Tell her you won't try to date or fuck her (disqualify) but keep up the flirting/kino etc and take her and her girlfriends out and flirt and kino the shit out her. You may not be an item but if you act like you are it will have the same effect.

flirt, tease, kino etc her friends and their friends and their friends. Someone in that chain will be fucking you and soon.

Use the friendzone as a means to expand your social circle and utilize a new wingwoman/pivot.

And just FYI, I have ended up in bed at the end of the night with my wingwoman/pivot a number of times before. Sometimes seeing other women show an interest is enough to make them reconsider the whole friendzone thing
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