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| Author: | Chief [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The real reason musicians get laid |
I found this article on Cracked called "The 5 Weirdest Ways Music Can Mess With the Human Brain": http://www.cracked.com/article_19006_th ... brain.html And I wanted to share the last item on their list because it relates to seduction: Quote: It Makes You A Better Communicator
As a musician, I can personally say that this makes a lot of fucking sense.How does a narcissistic ass like John Mayer, who isn't even that attractive, still have hot women of all ages throwing themselves at him? It's the guitar, isn't it? Actually, a trained musician like Mayer would probably be able to talk a woman into his bed without ever even playing a note. It turns out that studying music gives you an advantage when it comes to perceiving the emotions of others, so all those years of being chained to a piano as a child are finally going to work in your favor. People who can play instruments at near-professional level can detect subtle emotional changes and intonations in the vocal tones of others. In other words, they know whether you are actually sad when you say you're fine, even when most non-musicians would have no idea. Not only that, but the fact that they studied music makes them better able to tune out background noise, so they are even better at paying attention to what you are saying in that crowded restaurant or bar. How the hell does music do that? Research shows that people who have studied music actually have brains wired differently than non-musicians. This rewiring makes them better able to express emotions they are feeling, but it also makes them more able to understand the emotions others express. Music is very emotional, and people wired to understand those subtle emotional changes can also detect them in the vocal tones of someone talking. The emotion of the music translates to knowing when your boss is secretly mad or your mother is secretly disappointed. The sooner you start learning music, the more pronounced this re-wiring is. Scientists think that teaching children music might help kids with autism better understand vocal cues and encode speech. The fact that this brain re-wiring helps them tune out background noise could also help kids stay focused in noisy classrooms. It is also something that gets better the more you play, so sticking to your piano lessons now could lead to a powerful advantage in your future dating world. Start studying music if you haven't already, guys. EDIT: link fixed |
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| Author: | LyricalDream [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:51 pm ] |
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Reminds me a lot of why I empathise with a lot more people then my friends do. They don't really listen to a lot of music like I do.. or enjoy music like I do. And when I go out - they always ponder about the fact why I'm so close with so many people. Interesting article Chief. Thanks for the share. ≠ LD |
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| Author: | Jav [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:01 pm ] |
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Quote: Reminds me a lot of why I empathise with a lot more people then my friends do.
^ They don't really listen to a lot of music like I do.. or enjoy music like I do. And when I go out - they always ponder about the fact why I'm so close with so many people. Interesting article Chief. Thanks for the share. ≠ LD I'm wondering if the same effects happen when you listen to music, or does that re-wiring solely happen when you create music. The research is talking about the latter. But what about 'listening'. |
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| Author: | LyricalDream [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:53 pm ] |
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I'm wondering if the same effects happen when you listen to music, or does that re-wiring solely happen when you create music.
Well I am a musician (Lyricist & african drum player) but the last one is without words while the first one is only on events and not very talkative, more 'warming the crowd up.'The research is talking about the latter. But what about 'listening'. Regardless of the facts stated above, I think the more you listen to music, the more you can rely on specific combination of words to be used with a specific emotion. ≠ LD |
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| Author: | SilentKiller [ Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:03 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Reminds me a lot of why I empathise with a lot more people then my friends do.
^ They don't really listen to a lot of music like I do.. or enjoy music like I do. And when I go out - they always ponder about the fact why I'm so close with so many people. Interesting article Chief. Thanks for the share. ≠ LD I'm wondering if the same effects happen when you listen to music, or does that re-wiring solely happen when you create music. The research is talking about the latter. But what about 'listening'. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR9AyqawcA8[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9iNLpLhuSg[/youtube] Damn, where the beautiful ladies at? Lets just make love. |
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| Author: | jojo19 [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The real reason musicians get laid |
Quote: I found this article on Cracked called "The 5 Weirdest Ways Music Can Mess With the Human Brain":
Something like this i have never considered despite being doing quite well successfully with music and being told i am very musical. So i shall think about this more. But yeh it's something i just haven't considered before.
And I wanted to share the last item on their list because it relates to seduction: Quote: It Makes You A Better Communicator
As a musician, I can personally say that this makes a lot of fucking sense.How does a narcissistic ass like John Mayer, who isn't even that attractive, still have hot women of all ages throwing themselves at him? It's the guitar, isn't it? Actually, a trained musician like Mayer would probably be able to talk a woman into his bed without ever even playing a note. It turns out that studying music gives you an advantage when it comes to perceiving the emotions of others, so all those years of being chained to a piano as a child are finally going to work in your favor. People who can play instruments at near-professional level can detect subtle emotional changes and intonations in the vocal tones of others. In other words, they know whether you are actually sad when you say you're fine, even when most non-musicians would have no idea. Not only that, but the fact that they studied music makes them better able to tune out background noise, so they are even better at paying attention to what you are saying in that crowded restaurant or bar. How the hell does music do that? Research shows that people who have studied music actually have brains wired differently than non-musicians. This rewiring makes them better able to express emotions they are feeling, but it also makes them more able to understand the emotions others express. Music is very emotional, and people wired to understand those subtle emotional changes can also detect them in the vocal tones of someone talking. The emotion of the music translates to knowing when your boss is secretly mad or your mother is secretly disappointed. The sooner you start learning music, the more pronounced this re-wiring is. Scientists think that teaching children music might help kids with autism better understand vocal cues and encode speech. The fact that this brain re-wiring helps them tune out background noise could also help kids stay focused in noisy classrooms. It is also something that gets better the more you play, so sticking to your piano lessons now could lead to a powerful advantage in your future dating world. Start studying music if you haven't already, guys. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:03 pm ] |
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That's lame because I've studied music since I was 5 and I'm crap at reading other people and shit at the subtlety of emotions in others. Maybe I'm just a dick? |
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| Author: | Fin [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:39 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Reminds me a lot of why I empathise with a lot more people then my friends do.
^ They don't really listen to a lot of music like I do.. or enjoy music like I do. And when I go out - they always ponder about the fact why I'm so close with so many people. Interesting article Chief. Thanks for the share. ≠ LD I'm wondering if the same effects happen when you listen to music, or does that re-wiring solely happen when you create music. The research is talking about the latter. But what about 'listening'. So I doubt listening would have the same effect as learning to play. |
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| Author: | johnchangmai [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:11 pm ] |
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Ha Ha Oh Yes. The Arts. I have spent a great deal of my life hanging out with Singers,Guitar playeys and others in the profession. They are for a start full of passion. Have strong emotions that can lead them into trouble. Many end up on hard drugs and booze. Despite there open creative nature many are quite lonely. And Finally. Many are hopeless romantics. What girl could resist such charm and passion. p.s. YO People...............You should read up on famous people like Billy Joel. Why he got into music. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:11 am ] |
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Quote: That's lame because I've studied music since I was 5 and I'm crap at reading other people and shit at the subtlety of emotions in others.
What did you learn? Piano? Classical? And how often did you practice (learning and practicing new things as opposed to just playing)?I've recently met someone who has "played" bass guitar for 6 years but he can't even play root notes by ear during jam sessions. Obviously someone like that hasn't really studied music for those 6 years, he likely just goofed off with it for the entire time without even developing a sense for an aural style of learning as most singers, guitarists and bass guitarists do. Likewise, I have played guitar for 8 years but I'm probably only as good as someone who has seriously studied music on guitar for only a few years since most of that time involved just playing; I can barely do jazz at all. In my experience with playing in bands, the band members need a lot of emotional sense to match the feeling of whatever they're playing with what the other band members are playing, and this is especially important when there are only a handful of performers as opposed to something like an entire orchestra where individual performers pretty much get drowned out by the collective harmony. Practicing shit like this so much has definitely made me better at vibing and state-matching with others, as PUAs would put it. If you've studied music enough to hear and recognize the difference between 2 exact same notes played with different dynamics, I believe that's the beginning of practice for reading the subtlety of emotions in others. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:45 pm ] |
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Couldn't it be also said that those professional musicians are where they are because they are more "sensitive" in the first place? I know musicians love to think of themselves as creative and original and in touch with emotions but above all, I think musicians are great copy cats. They can recall emotions and conversations and repeat them like a cheap song. . . and really believe it. LOL . . . |
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| Author: | Jav [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:02 pm ] |
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Quote: Couldn't it be also said that those professional musicians are where they are because they are more "sensitive" in the first place?
And how'd a musician tell a story?
I know musicians love to think of themselves as creative and original and in touch with emotions but above all, I think musicians are great copy cats. They can recall emotions and conversations and repeat them like a cheap song. . . and really believe it. LOL . . . |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:42 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Couldn't it be also said that those professional musicians are where they are because they are more "sensitive" in the first place?
And how'd a musician tell a story?I know musicians love to think of themselves as creative and original and in touch with emotions but above all, I think musicians are great copy cats. They can recall emotions and conversations and repeat them like a cheap song. . . and really believe it. LOL . . . What I meant is: At age 6, I learned piano by watching and listening to my teacher play. For a while, I could not understand how ALL MY classmates could F up so much when our teacher would play the sample piece just prior to our attempts. it wasn't many years later that I realized that I had what they call, "perfect pitch". I simply watched and listened. I could recall the entire piece note for note, and my teacher's fingerings, step by step. All I did was just copy cat. And this is what accomplished musicians have in common. The listen . . . they watch . . they play . . . and here's the funny step . . . they BELIEVE. They play it . . .and the kid who grew up in the farms believe that he's a gangster rapper. The kid who grew up in the streets believes that he's a country singer. This is the power of music. They believe and they can make others believe . . . This is the power of music . . . |
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| Author: | spandrel [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:54 am ] |
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I think it's much more likely that musicians get laid because they have very high, in some cases huge, numbers exposure. Think about it, they are going from town to town with fanbases of women who have seen their image and in some cases seen them in videos etc. This gives the women a chance to feel attraction. From there, if the guy is playing in front of 2000 people a night, 1000 of those women who have heard of him before, he has a very good chance of getting laid. This is all aside from the fact that he is super-DHV in many ways. |
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| Author: | WildBill89 [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:19 pm ] |
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Great post. I'm in a band, singing and playing bass. Over the years of performing, I have found that having a sense of humour onstage and being perceived as having talent both intrigue women. Also, the fact that people are crowding to watch you perform, this is a major DHV. I would consider the ability to read emotions better as true, but only to musicians who can learn by ear as this forces them to be more observant. |
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