pretty solid post. can u recommend any stuff by bad boy or that other fellow? ive never checked them out and am rather interested.

Into a further analysis, you will notice that naturals tend to do that, they have this sense of when to be sexually and when to be indirect, but one thing don't change and is that they always have this strange spark in the eyes, that even when they show the minimum sexual interest they have something that pulls the attention of people to them.

Some people try to dismiss the indirect/direct debate by simply saying "you have to calibrate" or "it depends on the situation."

The problem is, that can often be quite vague and not really much of a helpful guide.

Could you explain what this strange spark in there eyes is?

If I were to summarise this, I would say:

Go indirect to start with but use as little directness as possible to be safe and conventional, but make sure you definitely display your interest.

Example: you're talking to a girl at a house party and you think she is the sort who is game for a shag. Obviously a direct line like "want to fuck?" is not going to work so you go indirect but flirt a lot and display your interest, without going over the top.

Do you agree? If you do, then my conclusion is that these posts are too long winded in getting their point across for such a simple message as I thought your other current thread was very complex for a concise message. If not, then I am wrong and long winded posts are essential!

No you haven't quite gotten the main points, which are:

1. Its not direct VS indirect, either-or. It's actually a sliding scale with very indirect at one end, and very direct on the other.

2. Calibration is about expending the minimum amount of work to get your desired result.

3. To calibrate correctly, choose the lowest value on the indirect-direct scale to clearly make your sexual and romantic intent clear. Choosing too high is overkill and looks like you lack social intelligence (for example telling a girl she looks fucking sexy and you want to slide her panties off right there and fuck her on the table, in front of her mother, some extended family, and some of your mutual friends from school.) Choose too low, and she may not understand why it is you're talking to her, and assume you're just friendly and be polite to you, without ever reciprocating your actual interest or desire. (For example, engaging her in polite conversation about neutral subjects for 30 minutes when you're in a noisy, crowded club at 1am and she's dressed in a short skirt and heels).

-In your example, if I can discern easily that a girl is DTF the moment I see her at a party, then I would walk right up to her and say "listen, don't take this the wrong way, but you look absolutely goddam sexy and I had to come over and find out who you are."

"Wanna fuck" is NOT 'direct game,' it's just being an idiot. Being direct is about expressing your sexual interest in her clearly and unapologetically from the beginning, not about propositioning girls for sex.