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Author:  ryry [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  A question to the most Expierienced PUA's

How many times did you get rejected, before you got a HB9+ Close?

DAy game?

Give a rough estimate

Author:  Melodical [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:28 pm ]
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Depends on how you frame "rejected" , an approach is a screening process which takes place after a woman has passed the physical attraction test.
You can approach women to find out they are not particularly nice people and automatically disqualify them regardless of if they "reject" you are not.

If a woman gives any nasty retort (1 in a 100) then she's not rejecting you as the retort itself has rejected her from your interest.

I must admit though I had bad AA at the beginning so used the opinion opener exclusively in my approaches (nothing to reject) so I would have to say none.
They may have not encouraged the interaction to continue (boyfriends/Husbands) or the occasional freeze outs (miscalibrations on my part) but as a rule I was too ambigous to have anything to reject. Easy on the ego for a newbie!

Author:  Little Panda [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:43 pm ]
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I don't like the whole idea of the 'numbers game'.

You will always get rejected in life, no discussion there. One day, you might close an HB9 on your first approach and on the other day you might get blown out of 25 sets in a row.

These things are unpredictable and shouldn't be labeled in ways such as 'Look at me, I can close every 14th set I open.'

First time I closed an HB9 was about 3 months ago. She was the first set I opened and she was the only set I had to open that night.

What an amazing PUA I must be, right!? No - I haven't closed a 9 ever since that night. And I've gotten blown out a lot too. Shit happens, the path to success is not linear.

Author:  Valon [ Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:51 pm ]
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Around 12% = rejection

40% = flake

Which leaves 48% succes

Just get the right frame, you're in for some fun, she's in for some fun, let's have fun!

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