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Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Why your Mindset about sex is probably KILLING your game

Hey guys, I hope you all had fun adventures over the weekend, I know I did! In fact, I actually saw 4 different girls Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday (all black, yes ;-) and didn't have sex once! Do I care? Not at all!

http://www.sashapua.com/articles/the-beggars-frame.html

In this article, Sasha talks about how it's easy to quickly subcommunicate the fact that you are a value-taker, and blow yourself out of a set in no time.

Even if you get far enough to get a number or a date, the mentality of trying to GET something out of a girl is going to severely restrict your chances of getting her to relax and trust you enough to have sex with you. A few questions posted on here (not to say they are the only guys who might benefit from this advice!) reflect that mentality of trying to get sex out of her, as if you're assuming it's something she gives you and you take, and that it's the only purpose and end-goal of your interaction.

The reason I don't care about not having sex over the past few days is because I'm not thinking like that. During the initial pickup, I'm figuring out whether I should actually take the time to see this girl again for a date. On the date, I'm figuring out whether I should bother taking her back to have sex, and whether it's gonna be worth being tired for work the next day, for example. This subcommunicates my abundance mentality, and makes me more attractive and more likely to want to sleep with me in the first place. This is the interesting paradox - by not needing to push for sex, I often get girls to go further more quickly than they normally would.

If you're serious about having one-night stands only, for whatever reason, then that's fine. But you have to really believe that you're going to give her a great sexual experience and that she wants to have it and will enjoy it. Then you're going into the interaction assuming that you're bringing value into her life. What's left is to screen for girls that actually want what you want. There's no point sitting there building comfort and talking about if she's a good cook if all you want is to get a blowjob in the bathroom. It's better to directly express your sexual intent, and then confidently lead her towards whatever your goal is, with the knowledge that if she stays and keeps talking to you, she DEFINITELY wants it too (REGARDLESS of what she SAYS).

The mindset shift is this:

x STOP thinking "how do I make her give me sex as quickly as possible?"

√ START thinking "how do I act in a confident and congruent fashion, such that she becomes comfortable and aroused enough to choose to share a fantastic sexual experience with me ?"

The action plan to help implement this mentality:

- Have a LIFE outside of "picking up girls." There are tons of hobbies, interests, sports, and so on that can give you a new social circle and some purpose, goals to achieve, and fun to have. Explore them! It will make you a more rounded person, add variety to your life, give you stories to tell, achievements to feel positive about, and may even put you in contact with hot girls (yoga class anyone?)

- Get really good at giving girls orgasms. If you absolutely KNOW that a girl will go crazy for what you do, then your mentality will immediately change from her allowing you to have sex with her, to you GIVING her an incredible experience she'll love, and come back for! I recommend David Shade's material: http://masterful-lover.com/cmd.php?af=1325438

- Keep the abundance mentality by playing the numbers game. Don't get hung up on one special girl. Sure, if you find a great one, keep her on as your main girl, but keep opening and keep getting numbers. A flake, bad date or breakup is a lot less of a big deal if another date* is just a couple of texts away! If you're not comfortable approaching, or are not getting consistent numbercloses, then a bootcamp may be the perfect solution for you: http://www.sashapua.com/bootcamp

*As for dates themselves, they do not have to be 2 hour of drinks and dinner that you pay for - you can meet for a coffee for 30 minutes and go back to yours, split the bill at a cheap and cheerful local place, or cook together or watch a DVD at one of your places, all for less than a tenner!

Author:  AdamThomas [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:27 pm ]
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I actually think a lot of the problems people have on here are because they're doing anything BUT trying to get sex... They're too interested in showing "value", coming up with routines and lines, and showing "abundance" and "non-neediness".

Author:  Little Panda [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:15 am ]
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What's wrong with wanting to get sex?

Shouldn't be difficult, especially knowing you have something to offer (other than being a walking boner).
There's a difference in wanting sex because you feel you need it for your ego, compared to wanting sex because it's an enjoyable experience for both you and the girl. A mutual and pleasurable experience, instead of you wanting it because you wanna feel good about yourself.

Having the ^above egoistic mindset will be picked up by girls and they'll feel the agenda behind it since your behavior which is being supported by that mindset will reveal you.

Author:  trixsta [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:39 pm ]
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So basically, the point in everything you have said is... Act like you're pushing for sex, comes off as desperate: result is no sex.

Act like you don't care about whether you get sex, comes off as abundance: result is sex.

Who is Sasha?

Author:  Little Panda [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:38 pm ]
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^I think you're missing the point

Author:  Keksman [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:10 pm ]
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A mutual and pleasurable experience
I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear when I wrote
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knowing you have something to offer

The OP is basically saying being a cool dude gets you laid (AKA having something to offer). That's cool and all but I still don't see the point in pretending you don't want sex.
Not what the post is saying. I think it boils down to two things: being open-minded without an agenda written into stone, and not being needy/desperate. If you're not desperate, you roll with the punches and have fun no matter what. That's attractive and will get you laid.

I love sex as much as the next guy, but I totally get the point about having a great weekend without a lay.

Author:  SilentKiller [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:15 am ]
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I gotta go with the young homie Da Veed. You should make it clear that you want to have sex with her, in a proper way. (Flirt, game, etc)

Author:  Little Panda [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:35 am ]
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^I think you're missing the point
I would hope not. Oh my. Want to clarify?

Being a cool dude is good for your sex life?

It's important to communicate and connect with women, rather than being a walking-boner with nothing to offer and demand sex?

That's nice.

Don't lie to yourself though about your desire to have sex.

if we can agree on this ^, then I think we are on the same page.
Nobody said anything about hiding your intentions. You want sex. She wants sex. Everybody wants sex.

Trying to lie about it and pretend you're not a sexual being is not the point Ryan is trying to make. Have you read the article that Sasha wrote? http://www.sashapua.com/articles/the-beggars-frame.html

Distinguish between being sexual through the eyes of a selector, compared to being sexual through the eyes of a beggar.

Author:  Who? [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:01 am ]
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I just read true this very fast and correct me if I'm wrong but Sasha's text and blondguy's test was not really about the same topic? Sasha wrote about body language and the mindset of "I'll just get rejected anyway" while blondguy is talking about not caring about sex?

Anyway. I'm always clear with my intension when i do "game" that im looking for sex and if your an amazing person maybe we can be something more? When it comes to a "date coffe" or whatever i have already showed my intentions.

I try to have the mindset that "I'm a heterosexual man and you attractive! lets have sex"^^ I don't see the point in hiding that you want to have sex, damn it the most natural thing in the world.

Author:  Little Panda [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:12 am ]
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blondguy is talking about not caring about sex?
Not depending on sex

Author:  Keksman [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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There's a difference between wanting sex (we all do) and needing sex (we can't be happy if we go home alone). Incidentally, the former not only makes you happier, it's also better for your game.

Author:  SmashyD [ Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:37 am ]
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There's a difference between wanting sex (we all do) and needing sex (we can't be happy if we go home alone). Incidentally, the former not only makes you happier, it's also better for your game.
That's exactly what i was going to say, the difference between wanting and needing... it's the image that you put across... if you need sex it's probably because you haven't had it in a while, and if you haven't had it in a while then there's probably a reason for that. And that is what a woman can tell...

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