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Author:  R.G. [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  A rant

Fuck off

This is something I've been meaning to say to you all now. And that is, FUCK OFF. I've met a few PUAs now from this site and just on nights out. Whilst I can't judge from this small sample, it seems to me that these types of people are not the types of people I'd like to hang out with. There of course, also a lot of great and nice people. But this post is not about them.

When I'm with my girl friends, it's like..."JUST BE NORMAL". For god's sake. You don't have to act differently around girls or try and 'game' them. No wonder most of you are sarging with just guys.

I often hear "so which one of your friends are single" or "so have you got any blonde hotties for me back at your place?" Again, it's like, FUCK OFF. I actually CARE about my girl friends, and they are just FRIENDS, because I am a NORMAL person who treats girls NORMALLY.

I think a lot of you need to take a close look at yourself. And that goes for those of you who think you're great PUAs too. In fact in some cases, moreso - it's easy to forget what pickup-obsessed people don't think like. The other thing is, we spend so much time in our early training trying to keep out of friendzone - and we become so good at this later - that sometimes we forget how to be normal friends with normal girls! Reality check guys, whether you're laying tons of girls or not, are you a nice, normal, presentable guy at a dinner party? Or are you considering who your next 'target' will be (how rape-y does that sound). And don't perv over my girl friends, please. It's often the case that I'll sleep with one of my girl friends one night and she'll tell me about the scary pervy guy who asked her to marry her on the street, or asked her if he could play with her pom poms. This makes me think of this forum.

Anyway, I think I've realised this more as I've gained more of an 'entourage' or large groups of female friends I hang out with. Every night I have to 'protect' them from guys like you, and I realise how fricken annoying it is. Obviously, girls want guys to hit on them, but seriously have some class and decency about it if you're hitting on classy or decent girls.

I wanted to say a word or two on clothing so I'll post that here because I can't be assed to create a new thread. Hope it helps.


Attire

As far as what you wear goes, for me there are two most important points, and everything else is secondary.

The first is, generally, you have to be clean & well-arranged; that doesn't necessarily mean suit or tie, but you can wear female attire with a witch hat and still be clean & well-arranged. That's why peacocking is 'OK'. There are occasions where this concept doesn't hold true (think golden showers), but in general it's the most important.

The second thing, is peacocking. I'm not saying you have to dress up as a freak, but I'll put it this way. The last few years or so I've been sarging wearing really drab, boring clothes, just to prove to myself that looks don't matter. And they don't. BUT. If you DO wear unique clothing, then it helps a lot. In my experience, particularly with the more crazy/unique/high value girls.

Author:  trixsta [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:33 pm ]
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+1

I met a guy from uni and we were good mates. Then when he found out I was sort of into PUA it was all he talked about, literally. It's like he'd forgotten when we were mates. Even when I was with my other uni friends it was an embarrassment to have him around talking about game and stuff.

The crazy thing is if you put him in a bar or a club he will outgame me by a mile (I believe this is because in a club you can be anyone - it's like a fantasy game). Put him in a social situation and he's just the same as he was before he got into PUA. Lacking substance.

So don't lack substance!

Author:  johnchangmai [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:20 pm ]
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It will get a lot worse before it gets better.

At the moment you are having to deal with the (AMOB) guys.

ALPHA ,MALE ,OTHER ,BUM.

These cunts really piss me off to.
A few of the guys i hang out with stop bringing there girlfriends out because of the (AMOB) guys.

You CARE for your FRIENDS.

Understand totally.

The end.

Author:  R.G. [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:24 pm ]
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Yup, I agree.

I think the whole thing actually ties in with entourage game/going out with a lot of girls. I've kind of unintentionally done this now and it requires that you build a lot of trust with your girls (I'm talking going out with groups of 10-20 girls at a time).

Trust in that you won't hit on (some) of them (depends on the group dynamic). Trust that you will protect them from creepy guys/PUAs. Trust that you'll take care of them in general. And trust that you're a high value guy who will be a good 'representative' for their group; give off a good image.

It's an interesting situation. It's also quite strange being on the 'inside' for once. I can totally imagine good friends of mine being the creepy douche on the outside hitting on them, in fairness.

There's also a lot to take away from this in terms of improving your game. Such as, where possible, avoid approaching completely cold!

Author:  Little Panda [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:45 pm ]
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I completely agree with this. In fact, I recognize myself from the "earlier days" when I just started learning this. It made me even more terrified of girls because I NEEDED to have my game face on when talking to them. So whenever I talked to a girl, I had to bring out and waste a lot of energy to force myself becoming someone I'm not.

You know when I skyrocketed my game? It was the moment when I GAVE UP on game. I completely just blocked the community out and all of its concepts. I only focused on being myself and having a great time. Nobody was gonna tell me what to do or how to act. I made EVERY situation fun for me, because that's what mattered.

Then everything changed. Girls started noticing me, girls started hitting on me - and I felt like a living magnet.

On that point, I returned to the community, but only this time - with a completely different attitude and set of beliefs.

Very inspiring post here R.G, you can count on my vote for the competition.

Author:  Mind Hacker [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:59 pm ]
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Good advice. As for peacocking I'd like to add that peacocking is not what guys are demonizing in the community that you have to dress like a drag queen.
The best peacocking is to dress well and normal and just add ONE accessory that sticks out. You don't have to a be a Mystery clone to peacock.

Author:  Coldman [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:29 pm ]
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+1

I know PUA sucked me in and made me an uncalibrated social mess. (more-so than before I got into it.) and if it weren't for posts like this I'd still be like that.

I think that you first run around, be weird and do your "missions" and stuff and after that you become calibrated and just be normal.

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