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| Author: | Fin [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The importance of Breaking frame. |
"It only costs 300 pennies!" "It only costs £3!" ------------------------------- Take a guess at which one of these is most likely to sell the product in question? ------------------------------------ Well if you guessed 300 pennies, you're right. Studies into market and buying behaviours have found that using un-familiar or odd phrases that require a person to act or think in order to figure out what was said markedly increase the sell rate. Most of us wander around, even in conversation gliding through in auto-pilot. By doing or saying something origonal, startling or obscure you break that auto-pilot that the other person is always in danger of slipping into, and bring them in to focus on you and them. Jav previously mentioned that being un-reactive is often not enough, it is much better to be causing others to react to you. When others have to think and react to you, it involves them immiediatly, making them invest in you and brings them to a state where they focus on you. ---- Think for a second, how could you cause that "Wow" responce in a convo. Some simple ones to start us all of. 1. Making a good, loud and dominant opening. 2. Anykind of playful physical touch. Spinning her around, messing up her hair, holding hands as you walk to the bar. 3. Picking out a part of that person with a specefic comment (Using the words "You") Tends to have a fantastic effect, general comments like, "I love girls in red" is a little to vague. "You look great in red" is a personal comment that immiediatly involves her as part of the topic of conversation. The benefits are huge, better rapport, creates a great personal vibe for sexual escalation and dare through investment has her feeling more attracted to you. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:26 pm ] |
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I think that a big part of game, especially with very hot girls, is to snap them out of their routine-like ways of talking to guys. If you manage to do that (by above said ways+more), you've reached a hooking point. Where the girl actively invests in the conversation, because her routine-like ways of talking don't suffice anymore. The interaction will be more genuine, real and above all, more fun. |
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| Author: | johnchangmai [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:35 pm ] |
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I like this post. I get the most enjoyment out of girls reacting to me. Quote.I think that a big part of game, especially with very hot girls, is to snap them out of their routine-like ways of talking to guys. This invloves exactly the points that you have highlighted and vaj's statement in my example below. Example. I have been doing exactly what you are saying here but instead of interacting with one girl i am deliberately talking to two women at the same time. The reason is to observe both women to see who reacts the best to certain questions,body language. And then how the other girl reacts to the other girl, etc That way you can see which one has been affected more by what you say. Or how you said it, etc. I have found that by walking up to two women it is best to say good morning ladies but only look at one of them. Then ask a question to the other without looking at the first one you spoke to. I am only interested in watching or listening for reactions from either of them. Nervousness in voice is good. Being creative and inventive will alway make you appear more interesting in the way you interact, even if it is non verbal. |
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| Author: | Fin [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:16 pm ] |
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Thanks guys. I think the Neg worked in the same way back in the old MM days. Most MM practitioners thought it was a disqualifier that made them seem high value. But on reflection I feel it was effective more becuase of the inherent confusion and oddness it presented it's target. Silence, similarly as mentioned by 60 can be a useful way to break her autopilot. |
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