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Author:  Jav [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  A reaction to 'would you lie to get her into bed'
First of,

If you don't know who Karen Owen or what the Duke sex-list is read this:
http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/10/07/kar ... owerpoint/

You won't have much to discuss about without atleast knowing that bit of information.


Now, Tucker Max might be a familiar name to some of you.

And he has reacted to the Duke sex-list and the media attention it has been getting.

link to his article: http://www.tuckermax.com/blog/what-i-th ... fuck-list/


In particular is point 3 interessting.



It's a gem of an article on some of the stuff we're trying to discuss here.



p.s.

It also helps reading kasabi's posts in the 'would you lie to her' thread to get what I'm getting at (too lazy to post link)
Author:  AFC Royal [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:45 am ]
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I have to say I find this stuff really interesting.

It's not really mainstream thought process, and it makes a really interesting set of points. Kind of depressing, though. I feel like the world is fucked whenever I read shit about how other people are giving each other shit about stupid shit.
Author:  The Doctor [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:10 am ]
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I got about 2 paragraphs in when I decided to stop before I wasted any more of my time. This begs one simple question to me... who gives a shit?

Seriously who has the time to burn on such ridiculous shit? Posts like this are why I stepped away from this community and why I am wondering right now why on earth I am visiting here at all.

wtf does this post accomplish other then to waste 5 minutes of mine and a few others lives?
Author:  Jav [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:49 am ]
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I got about 2 paragraphs in when I decided to stop before I wasted any more of my time. This begs one simple question to me... who gives a shit?

Seriously who has the time to burn on such ridiculous shit? Posts like this are why I stepped away from this community and why I am wondering right now why on earth I am visiting here at all.

wtf does this post accomplish other then to waste 5 minutes of mine and a few others lives?
It made you write that....


What do you consider that? A waste of time aswell?

If so,


good job
Author:  hbsocal [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:33 am ]
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I'm only gonna say this once, because its come to my attention that some people are loosing sight of whats going on.

My reason for turning to PUA and NLP, is that I'm 23, never had a gf, don't know how to act around women, and I ALWAYS get rejected. I've always been told by people to be myself, to be honest, and that women will love that. For the last 5-6 years I have done exactly that, and being a modeler by nature I've figured out what my problem is. Social Proof... I've never had a girl, so no girl wants to be with someone who's never had a girl. I've tried telling them, but the reactions I got, I quickly learned honesty IS NOT the best policy.

My choices are as follows:

- Be honest and face a lifetime of rejection by social proof, the more time that passes the more this will work against me.

- Lie, and pretend to be the kind of guy a woman would want to date.

Its a really simple decision. In my honest opinion I've suffered enough by the fault of dumbshits giving advice about things they know nothing about. Its time for me to do whatever it takes to get what every man on this planet is programmed for. And no asshole far or near has the right to tell me I should have tried harder.

Any woman that calls me out on this, what do I do... I tell it to her straight, the fact that guys have to act like this is purely the result of the way women treat men in this society. They expect guys to act a certain way, but they only fuck guys that do the exact opposite... so wtf...
Author:  greasy [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:26 am ]
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My choices are as follows:

- Be honest and face a lifetime of rejection by social proof, the more time that passes the more this will work against me.

- Lie, and pretend to be the kind of guy a woman would want to date.
Tickling riddle indeed. To remain as an honest dorky con man or transform to a powerful pretender. Perhaps how about entering the work out arena and lifting and creating powerful arms instead? You must own some form of honest power. There is no choice.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:17 pm ]
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My choices are as follows:

- Be honest and face a lifetime of rejection by social proof, the more time that passes the more this will work against me.

- Lie, and pretend to be the kind of guy a woman would want to date.
Tickling riddle indeed. To remain as an honest dorky con man or transform to a powerful pretender. Perhaps how about entering the work out arena and lifting and creating powerful arms instead? You must own some form of honest power. There is no choice.
OR you could create an attractive, successful life through living authentically with purpose, and invite women to share in that world simply by being honestly interested in connecting with them, and allowing them to see your real attractive qualities for themselves.

Best quote of either of those documents is by Tucker Max (of course):

"How do you understand where your limits are? Push them. How do you figure out what you want from life? Try everything and see what fits. How do you know what not to do? Do it, and see how much it sucks. Success doesn’t teach anything except to repeat what you just did. Experimentation and failure instruct, not success. There is no other way to learn what life is without actually living it, and truly living life means you’re going to make mistakes."
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