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Author:  Ezo [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  I suck my way to the top

Seriously guys... How many of you are thinking gay now? ;)

Anyways... This is not a gay thread.

I just tried to define how I get better at the Game. How I progress. In earlier posts I have mentioned such concepts as making a decision and not giving up... That is definately part of it.

Maybe a bit of background first. I started out as most people, being terrible. Sucking horribly. I did my training in the most difficult clubs I could find, way above my economical level, AMOG training among bikers and drug dealers, etc etc... Not recommended though. And every step on the way i pushed forwards.

Now I should tell you the secret of why I take giant leaps instead of slowly progressing as a normal person. Im not saying tha my way is better but for some it might just help. Let me explain. I can go periods where I think that I didnt progress at all and then suddenly I take a giant leap upwards.

The reason is simple. I suck my way through the field trips. I frequently suck in field.

Not that I cannot perform a pickup, I can and have been known to close. So why do I then suck in field?

Because I am always intentionally one step behind myself. Whenever I feel like I have mastered a concept, a waypoint, made an amazing discovery, I move on to the next step. I dont stay where I know that I am successful, I move ahead. I push on the the next level, I throw myself out there, into the unknown.

Then I suck in field for a while until I understand what I am missing and keep pushing until I have fixed that part of the problem, like dropping routines for example. That is when I take the leap. That is when I understand.

It is all because of my personality, I like discoveries, I like fixing things, I get bored repeating stuff that already works.


Summed up my way of learning is:

Master what you need to master and move on, dont linger.

Author:  Shyler [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:48 pm ]
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How did you used to be when you were terrible?
how fast did you progress? How old were you when you started doing these things?

I want to know it because I have the same things. I started learning this PUA stuff a year ago, before that I was unconfident and afc.
I get better and better. I flirt a lot with girls in style, but I do not close or finish the PU often. These are also some form of personality issues: being bored, lazy, not focused because I always want to have something new and I like discovering as well, and I still think too much, a sign that I perhaps still lack confidence.
Still, I'm 18 and I still have a lot to learn.

Author:  Jav [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:58 pm ]
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Ok...catchy title, how can he POSSIBLY relate these?! I had an epiphany today so bear with me

So when Sonic The Hedgehog was out on Sega Megadrive, I always got up to the level that involved swimming under water. If you stayed under too long and didn't come up for air or keep swallowing air bubbles, you would drown

I never ever conquered this level

I would always make sure I came up regularly for air, and stay near an air bubble spawning point. What this meant was that I was too scared to venture into the unknown and swim to areas where I wasn't sure I could get air

Sure, I stayed alive, but I could never get past a certain point. I was so scared of impeding doom that I missed out on furthering my success, all in the name of playing it safe

Essentially I have played it safe all my life. I've not taken risks or pushed my edge for fear of the unknown. Until now of course

This can be seen when out in the field with:

Ejecting before you are told to fuck off, or before she leaves, or cos you think you don't have anything interesting enough to say

Not escalating because if you go for the makeout and she says no, or not now, or not here that you'll have to deal with rejection

Not escalating physically with her because you're worried other people will see, and then if it doesn't wind up in a hookup, you'll look like a failure to your friends

Lots of people stay in the comfort and safety of self defined limits and boundaries. They are more content to live with less than what they want because it means they won't have to risk their feelings getting hurt when a girl doesn't want to kiss them, or that their friends might say mean things to them, even though they are most likely too scared to do HALF the stuff you do

It's all playing it safe. The other option is taking a risk in order to be in with a chance to win big

How many times do you think your favourite sports person failed before they got to the top? Even the top boxers are RARELY undefeated!

Popular quote: "You miss 100% of the shots you DON'T take" - YES! This is cliche, but that's cos it's true!

I genuinely believe that if I played that game again now, I would be able to conquer the level. Simply because my personal standards have changed

Author:  Ezo [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:43 pm ]
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How did you used to be when you were terrible?
how fast did you progress? How old were you when you started doing these things?

I want to know it because I have the same things. I started learning this PUA stuff a year ago, before that I was unconfident and afc.
I get better and better. I flirt a lot with girls in style, but I do not close or finish the PU often. These are also some form of personality issues: being bored, lazy, not focused because I always want to have something new and I like discovering as well, and I still think too much, a sign that I perhaps still lack confidence.
Still, I'm 18 and I still have a lot to learn.
I have been doing this for 3 years now... More or less. The beginning is the worst part, after that it is fun! I was probably the worst kind of guy you could possibly imagine. Physics geek, RPG geek, a really lame guy, scared of everything, myself included, shy, no confidence, social inhibitions, depressed, angry with the world, always being the victim...

I share your traits, I am lazy, easily bored, unfocused and dont always see a PU to the end. Still, if I really want something I go for it. if it is worth the trouble. There is a difference between not closing because you cant close and cant be bothered closing...

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:35 pm ]
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Do you ever find it difficult to motivate yourself to go to some high end club and spend money and be "on" and high energy all the time, when you already have a few girls on various levels from casual fuckbuddy to MLTR, and so you get complacent, don't practice gaming, and actually drop your level? What do you do to stay motivated and on top of your game (apart from KJing on here)?

Author:  Ezo [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:46 am ]
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Im not in it for the girls... Im in it for personal development... That way I find it very easy to motivate myself. :)

Author:  Jelly [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:25 am ]
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I feel ya, once a method is perfected it seems like its time to move on to the next method, I think its the want to be the best, layin girls if fine but I cant do or want relationships, even fuck buddies are just like meh idc really

Author:  Trotyl [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:09 pm ]
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Not a gay thread? Damn...

Author:  Naughty_pencil [ Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:00 am ]
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well yeah man i guess if thats what makes u happy. i mean for me goal is to meet girls, hook up, and just get experience ingame. So if somethings going right then i dont skip it and go look for something else. i enjoy it ovcourse.

but hey wateva improves ur game man

:)

Author:  Ezo [ Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:22 pm ]
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Well thats the thing. For me it is more important to build my inner game than my outer game...

I mean, not that I dont appreciate the occasional ONS... ;)

Author:  lalu [ Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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How did you used to be when you were terrible?
how fast did you progress? How old were you when you started doing these things?

I want to know it because I have the same things. I started learning this PUA stuff a year ago, before that I was unconfident and afc.
I get better and better. I flirt a lot with girls in style, but I do not close or finish the PU often. These are also some form of personality issues: being bored, lazy, not focused because I always want to have something new and I like discovering as well, and I still think too much, a sign that I perhaps still lack confidence.
Still, I'm 18 and I still have a lot to learn.
I have been doing this for 3 years now... More or less. The beginning is the worst part, after that it is fun! I was probably the worst kind of guy you could possibly imagine. Physics geek, RPG geek, a really lame guy, scared of everything, myself included, shy, no confidence, social inhibitions, depressed, angry with the world, always being the victim...

I share your traits, I am lazy, easily bored, unfocused and dont always see a PU to the end. Still, if I really want something I go for it. if it is worth the trouble. There is a difference between not closing because you cant close and cant be bothered closing...
Wow you inspired me a lot, could you read the PM I sent you? Thanks :)

Author:  ariana [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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Im not in it for the girls... Im in it for personal development... That way I find it very easy to motivate myself. :)
if you build it they will cum, oops i mean come 8)

Author:  Shyler [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:39 am ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Im not in it for the girls... Im in it for personal development... That way I find it very easy to motivate myself. :)
if you build it they will cum, oops i mean come 8)
o.0

cough* cough*

Author:  Ezo [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:22 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Im not in it for the girls... Im in it for personal development... That way I find it very easy to motivate myself. :)
if you build it they will cum, oops i mean come 8)
He he, been there done that... ;)

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