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Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:51 am ]
Post subject:  Strange phenomenon on rejection
Hey guys,something strange keeps happening to me.

Yesterday I'd #-closed a girl who I know previously(so no elaborate #-close routine needed).

Later that day I called her and texted a bit(cool so far).

For the record,she's like a 6 on my list(facially and bodily),socially awkward...

Why approach a 6?

Hey,she has sex appeal despite not having it facially,plus I had nothing better to do(lol)and I dont see anything wrong with running game on a 6 for learning purposes.

Ok,we texted a bit and it ended like this:

Me:"Anyway,I'll be in your area this evening at friends house.I'll text you so we can meet up and chat".

HB:"Im not gonna be home later[my BS-alert went off-lol]".

Me:"Ok cool,if you are,then text me".

Got no reply.

I called her later that night but she didnt answer a expected(lol).

Next day(today),I called her but no anwer so I texted:

Me:"Hey fun girl".

HB6:"Cool whats up"?

Me:"A lot.So whats up for later"?

Her:"No plans.

Me:"We should meet up then this afternoon".

Her:"I dont want to meet.Just friends I want to be".

Me:"I never said I wanted more.You're moving too fast(lol)".

Her:"Whatever,cool".

Now,Im like WTF to myself;this witch isnt even a real 6,yet she's blowing me off!!!

As if a miracle,I seen this same girl walking pass my house so I said to her:

Me:"Wow,a miracle(lol)..I tried calling you just now but phone rang out".

HB6:"I answered but you hung up[pure bullshit lies]".

And the witch kept walking with a nasty attitude;she didnt even stop to chat!!

Now this' the irony and point here:

Has anyoe one ele noticed that you'd get more rejections,flakes & BS from girls of lesser beauty?

This phenomenon fucking baffles me!!

I get much better responses from HB10's than from 5's(lol)!!

Im currently gaming an HB8.9 hot-ass teacher,and she's been totally engaging on all levels!!

Now this HB6 is rejecting,flaking and not giving me time of day!!

Is this for real!!!

But I think I have the answer to this puzzle and it's LSE(low-self esteem)and massive insecurities.

It's as if girls of lesser beauty(according to society),or simply ugly girls,they feel as though they're not deserving of the attention of certain guys.

It's as if they cant believe it,that a hot guy,socialite guy would game them or find them attractive .

Thus they shut him out and blow him off.

I rarely get this shit from HB8's and above.

But I always get this from girls of lesser beauty and status.

IDK-it bugs me out.

So for guy who're thinking that the lower they go on the beauty chain,the more lays they'd get...think again.

Better luck with an HB10 than a 4(lol).

Main reason why we fail with HB10's is because of the guy's own insecurities,AA and fear of rejection.

Hotter girls are actually easier to talk to;plus they're even more insecure than the HB5's.

How mind boggling.

I give up on trying to snag HB5's for quicc lays and experiments(lol).
Author:  McLavelli [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:10 am ]
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I've witnessed a similar occurance with a fat-chick at my old job. Around me she got all self-consious and start pulling down her shirt. I'm like :?: YOU'RE A FAT CHICK! To me you're an obstacle.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:37 am ]
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Lol,I get what you mean C-Luverman.

I've had the same prob' with fat chiccs too.

If I were to do a personal assessment on my game,I'd say that I've been rejected by more fat girls(plus size to be politically correct)than slim-hot one in my life.
Author:  Flynn [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:53 am ]
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God, I wish I had this problem LOL. In high school if I do as much as say something nice to an ugly chick I suddenly get constant IOI's. It's terrible. I completely agree with the low self esteem comment you made though. Ugly girls actually blow off some guys just because it makes them feel superior. I wonder what would have happened if you blew her off after the last text conversation where she didn't reply. Like you should have given it a few days and see if she replied because as soon as you got her number she probably had a feeling you were looking for a quick lay.
Author:  AFC Royal [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:55 am ]
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One possibility is that essentially she turns on auto-reject.

If you're attractive enough, less-hot girls automatically reject you because they believe that you aren't actually flirting with them, or, if you are, you must be really desperate/manipulative.

Thus, they blow you off to avoid pain.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:17 am ]
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Lol,it' sought of funny to me Flynn,because in high school,whenever I'd hit on a plumper or a 6,I'd get IOI's too.

Since I'v been in the community,it's like those same girls are intimidated by the transformation.IDK.

You're right Flynn about her thinking I wanted a quicc lay,'cause after all I did tex her the same day[Im a believer in letting 2-3 day go by in most cases].
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:26 am ]
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She did turn on auto-reject AFCRoyal,but I wondered why?

I now know I guess many things.

Lol,but you made the best point ever about them not thinking certain guy would flirt with them.

It's a status thing also.

In fact,I read about this years ago on a pick-up site where if the guy's social value is too high,the girl will reject.

I presented her with too much value.

Not that my opener was amazing,but I guess my style(peacocking,mini-mohawk,necclaces,etc)displayed too much for a girl of low social val'.

I knew this(that I should've toned it down)but I wanted to defy it anyway.
Author:  biggus [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:56 am ]
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Right off the bat I would say sorta same thing - Low Self esteem/insecurities and the most likely thought going through her head is 'he just wants a quick booty call.' or something along those lines.
Author:  SpeXXX [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:28 pm ]
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The reason that I don't approach girls that don't attract me, 6's in your scale, is mainly because that I can't be real with them and create the same sexual tension as with girls that I am attracted to. It's not coming from a point of horniness, but from a point of desperation or whatever the reason you made yourself doing it.

If you would've shown genuine interest in her right from the start, and not "Hey, that girl is gameable, she can be very useful in times that im lonely and horny", then it couldve been different.

She's not seeing you currently as a potential guy because of your background together, and the sudden #-close doesn't excite her, as if someone whom she doesn't know would've #-closed her.

That's my 2 cents,
PEACE
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:03 pm ]
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Im now starting to believe what Biggus' saying about just wanting a quicc fuck.

Perhaps thats what going through their heads.

Now Spexxx,I think you've pointed out the most crucial point on this:if the guy really isnt attracted to the girl,he wont project the same vibe as if a girl he was attracted to.

And Spexxx,I didnt show genuine
interest as you said.

I basically un-interestedly gamed her because I didnt have shit to do(lol),and a little quicc sex would'nt hurt(lol).

Lol,Im still laughing at how accurate you are Spexxx.

Im not an advocate of quick- #-closes,but in this case I went against my principls and pulled off my fastest #-close yet(lol).

I wasnt engaging.
Author:  McLavelli [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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Quote:
One possibility is that essentially she turns on auto-reject.

If you're attractive enough, less-hot girls automatically reject you because they believe that you aren't actually flirting with them, or, if you are, you must be really desperate/manipulative.

Thus, they blow you off to avoid pain.
I completely agree. Or they just create an imaginary scenario with you in their minds. Biggus is on point too.


But at the end of the day we don't want ugly girls or fat chicks. (occassionally we may game for practice or a quick lay)
Game is geared toward 10s. Fuck em![/img]
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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I agree C-Luverman;we should be wanting choice girls(at least to us).

But at times I go against the grain and game girls Im not that attracted to(thinking it'd be over all easier).

But I guess once you're not truely attracted nor invested,the momentum will be lacking[Sexxx eluded to that].
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:37 pm ]
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women just like giving their phone number out and flirting in clubs, like guys i guess. but i guess a -6's reality does not expect for a charming guy to really hit on them.

Tyler Durden talks about people and how they only accept and take what they truly believe they deserve. imagine if a hot girl was flirting with a 1/10 loser guy with no game, he'd probably think she wasnt interested apart from the false hope all guys get with women :P

They might actually only be interested in rapport based, kinda friends turn lovers kinda thing or hot guys who arent too good. ive noticed less attractive women respong better to just plain compliments and little bits of IOI's mixed with just rapport. Thats just what they're used too.

but there is also just the coincidence that they just happen to be your flakes, because i dunno i always find that less attractive women are the same just less game actually has to be played, so to speak. Maybe try toning down your game for them? theyre less socially skilled in terms of guys hitting on them or having guys around theyre feet, i mean, a compliment and rapport whilst being a bit funny is more than enough really.
same as less 'value' guys, just happy to be getting attention and would think something is up if the girl was waayy all about it like GAMING does. think about to your AFC days and how any attention from girls was awesome.

NOTE: fat chicks also ALWAYS think theyre too good for EVERYONE seriously, not all fat chicks but everyone knows what type im on about, loud ones that try to make up for their personality by being so called 'funny' usually the worst cockblockers. Their either deluded or overcompensating for their DEEP insecurities as i know a few over weight women that id nail cos theyre pretty cool and have a nice face.

long post, my bad :P
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:03 pm ]
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oh wait i was under the impression you liked her even though she was a 6 and i didnt realise it was such a fast close. specxxx probably is right!!

but what people think they deserve is a pretty interesting concept to put into this i think.
Author:  lalu [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:09 pm ]
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Quote:
I've witnessed a similar occurance with a fat-chick at my old job. Around me she got all self-consious and start pulling down her shirt. I'm like :?: YOU'RE A FAT CHICK! To me you're an obstacle.
Quote:
Lol,I get what you mean C-Luverman.

I've had the same prob' with fat chiccs too.

If I were to do a personal assessment on my game,I'd say that I've been rejected by more fat girls(plus size to be politically correct)than slim-hot one in my life.
Same for me...
OMFG FAT AND UGLY CHICKS ARE HARD TO GET NOW!!!!!!
Who cares :)
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