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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Does she have a boyfriend?Why do you care!? |
Ok,the topic might sound a bit politically incorrect or down-right immoral. In fact,I do care since I have a girlfriend but... Ok guys,what Im gonna share isnt my concept:I forgot which dating guru I adopted this belief from,but it's a great concept when gaming girls who are taken. In all reality,we truely dont know which girls are taken,unless we ask. So for the guys with the moral- hang ups,no need to have one because you truely dont know if the girl you've been sarging is taken;even if she says she doesnt have a BF. Ok,to the nitty gritty: Hey guy,why when sarging ,approaching the target,in conversation...Why ask if she's single or if she has a boyfriend? That's so fucking regressive to the pick up!! Why care!!!? In fact,asking if she has a boyfriend(in the early stage of the pick up(attraction phase or whenever),you're essentially cramping progress,and straight up turning off the target. She doesnt give a shit that she has a BF,so why should you as the guy care to ask? If she doesnt bring it up-guys,dont fucking ask!! By asking her that question,you've now activated her defense mechanims(even her ASD). So she'd use that fact aginst you all fucking night,preventing any real advancements. And if you're not good at social dynamics,there's no way you(the guy)can reverse this and sneak under her radars. So when trying to kiss her,massage her,get sexual with her,hug her,# close her,what fucking ever,she'd say,"I cant do this because I have a boyfriend". In reality,it's not her fault.It's the damn guys fault for asking!!? I believe that women secretly get pissed off when guys ask this. The girls are probably saying to themslves;"Damn,I would've slept with him,but he had to bring up that stupid-boyfriend question!!!" She now has solid reasons to reject you,activate her bitch shield,and give you extreme LMR-if it get that far. Why give her the reason to reject you? No woman wants to be perceived as a slut and cheaters. Even the worst-most obvious hood-rats whores I knew growing up in The Bronx would be offended being called a whore,or cheater. So guys,when you ask the target this boyfriend question,she's saying to herself,"I cant sleep with him now.I cant kiss him now,nor give him my #.In fact,I need to blow him off now or he'd think Im a slut because I have a bf.In fact,he may tell peple"!!! Guys,thats what goes through women' heads after you make them admit to having a bf by asking. And when we get blown out,ignored soon after,we wonder what went wrong. By not asking the boyfriend question,nor eluding to it,she wont bring it up (in most cases)!! So you can now proceed in gaming her with less BS and rejections!! In her mind,she's single since the topic never came up! Thus she'd be 200% more open for the lay,make out,#-close,etc. She has no guilt because yall never talk about the boyfriend,nor gave a shit to ask!! This concept has been a huge eye opener for me in field. I never ask the target if she ha a BF. Im only concerned with that after the lay. And she 'WILL' bring it up after the lay(even while lying in bed after the ONS(one-night stand)! She'd start to baccward rationalize and feel guilty or even cry. It's happened to me few times where I'd laid the girl and she breaks down in tears after the sex because they'd cheated. Most of them would be nonchalant about it(lol). So let them play the false-guilt shit after the lay. Every woman knows what they're doing but they have to fool themselves into feeling guilty. You didnt have a gun to her head so the guy shouldnt be feeling guilty nor immoral for banging a taken girl. So fellaz,quit asking about boyfriends,single,taken,and yall would see how much the target is willing to go further. My game transformed totally with this little concept tweek of not asking that question. Im currently gaming an HB 8.9 teacher over the past 2 days. I know she has a boyfriend(from my inquiries),but Im not gona tell her(lol)!! Im not gonna bring it up;and I havent. One may say,"so what if she volunteers that info"? Still the guys fault by hinting at it. If the girl or any girl ever brings that up,it's because some where in the chat,the guy subcommunicated it,shooting himself in the foot. Rambling on or just mentioning relationship stuff will only force her to admit having a bf. Now you're screwed,unless you're a guy who's skilled in damage control. And I doubt any Newbie or AFC is skilled at that. So newbies need to learn this concept now!! Once again,this is not my concept originally[cant remember the guru who popularized this;it wasnt Mystery]. I've adoted it,followed it and add my views about it. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:05 pm ] |
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Awesome post man! +1 rep from me! PUAs seem to forget that it is eventually the girls decision. We have no magic powers, we cannot force anyone to do anything they dont want to. All we can do is be the best we can be. The rest is up to her. It takes two (or more) to tango. |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:29 pm ] |
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Much alpha thanks for the props Ezo;you're still my favorite advisor on the forum(lol). Not trying to sound all weak but you Ezo are 1 of the reason I still have a girlfriend(lol)by giving good advise on my post about my MILF girlfriend few weeks bacc. Much thanks Ezo. My damn petpeeve is relationships;I friggin succ at it(lol). Hopefully Newbies or guys who dont recognize this concept(not dwelling on her having a boyfriend)would add it to their arsenal. |
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| Author: | Melissa [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:28 pm ] |
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I think you overstate the ASD. I've been approached by guys while in a relationship, and have even cheated on an ex--at no point did the thought of ruining my reputation or being perceived as a slut ever cross my mind. When I didn't cheat, I didn't because I thought that it would have been immoral due to the trust that I would be betraying; when I cheated, I did it because I didn't care anymore. |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:24 pm ] |
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Good points Melissa. You're right about ASD being overstated;I meant defense mechanisms in general or out-right rejections. Well,cheating because yo just didnt care anymore is the way it goes. If a girl values her guy,she would bring him up in any interaction that's lasted over 15 min. If she doesnt value the BF,she wont mention him during the pick up(that she has a BF. But another not here:Just becaue she mentions having a BF doesnt automatically mean she values him. On the flip side,some girls would mention the BF in order to not feel guilty later on if she does cheat. After all,she did say she has a BF:I guess that's why women are irrational creatures. They'd sleep with a guy,and if the BF finds out,she'd rationalize it to him(or herself)that,"I did tell him I had a man"! As if saying that to their cruhed bf would make him feel at ease. Anyway,thanks for posting Melissa. |
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| Author: | Melissa [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:24 am ] |
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Women are not irrational--at least, not any more so than the rest of humanity. Individual people are irrational, but that occurs across all genders (some societies recognize more than the two that we adhere to in western society), ethnitics and religions. Don't let the stereotype fool you. |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:35 am ] |
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You cant disagree Melissa that women go through a whole chain of thoughts when concerning men as far as,"if I sleep with him now,he'll think Im cheap". We men dont go throught that at all:not even AFC'S. A woman may want to sleep with a guy so bad that it aches her. But at the same time,she cannot and will not communicate this. In fact,many women would act indifferent to the guy they like. Like bacc in school when girls would curse at the boy she likes,hits him,tell the teacher on his ass for whatever(lol). In reality and in the girl's heart,she want this boy,but she has to play it off. Men dont go through that mental shit when it comes to seduction. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:10 am ] |
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This following statement is not gay...  Quote: Not trying to sound all weak but you Ezo are 1 of the reason I still have a girlfriend(lol)by giving good advise on my post about my MILF girlfriend few weeks bacc.
I am honored man! I am so glad I could help you. It truly brings joy to my heart!Still, not gay!
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| Author: | RVAIS [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:18 am ] |
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how many times do i have to post this.... http://www.break.com/index/she-has-a-boyfriend.html |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:35 am ] |
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No doubt Ezo;still not gay(lol)! |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:38 am ] |
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How damn ironic with the link RVAIS(lol)!! Irony is a bitch(lol)!! |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:00 am ] |
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To Melissa. That is so true. Women are not irrational, in fact I think that women are more rational than men. But men dont understand them. A man who thinks that a woman is being irrational does so because: A: Hes disappointed B: He doesnt see the big picture C: He doesnt have all of the information that forms the basis of her decision D: He sees it from only a logical point of view and forget the emotional one E: Same as above but reverse F: He protects his ego and to hide his own shortcomings he labels her as irrational G: He is an idiot Understanding a woman is not all that difficult, but it takes more effort than to understand a man. At least, for another man. For one simple reason. The other man would never tell you that you dont understand him, he would just say that yeah, close enough, cool, whatever. There are no emotional connections involved. Unless you count friendship in which case he is either a cool dude (good) or an asshole (bad). Simple as that. Or if you are gay...
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| Author: | Melissa [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:05 am ] |
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Given the fact that a woman's entire value in society used to be based on her sexual purity that isn't suprising. In some parts of the world, women are still viewed as 'damaged goods,' or stone to death, for the crime of being forced into having sex against their will. Google abstinence-only education programs in the US--particularly the one that uses Miss Tape. Who's portrayed as unclean for having sex with multiple partners? I'll give you a hint, it isn't the guy. While men are lauded for the number of women that they're able to sleep with, a woman is decried for being too easy or a slut should she dare to violate social norms. Don't condemn women as irrational for patterns that have developed as a result of socialization. |
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| Author: | Keksman [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:11 am ] |
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FANTASTIC STUFF!!! 
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| Author: | Ezo [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:22 am ] |
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Yeah... I know thats what it is like in many parts of the world. Im from another part (should be the most equal country in the world but there is still work to be done). Women and men both have a right to their sexuality. They have the right to choose whoever they wanna have sex with and how many. Society needs to evolve. |
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