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Author:  Octave [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Avoiding the Friend Zone
I noticed that with most girls i meet, i will be flirty with them but after some time it seems that i get stuck in the friendzone with almost all of them. This is a problem that is frustrating me a lot. Anyone got any advice.
Author:  jellysandwich5 [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:51 am ]
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Escalate.
Author:  Wagon [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:46 pm ]
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Escalate.
Totally, escalate sexual tension. Check out some 60 years of challenge stuff (the anti manifesto in this forum is an interesting read).

You must risk being rejected to succeed, there is no safe way to get what you want.
Author:  Steel654 [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:41 am ]
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Man up and make a move - thats your problem. Stop being a pussy & start touching!
Author:  Opener [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:42 pm ]
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Try to kiss her. EVEN IF SHE REFUSE and take her head back. If you did it then SHE KNOWS you want her physically.

She will start to think and there is a chance ;)

have fun
Author:  Octave [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:23 am ]
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i think i just need to take the advice and man up and take the risk, i just hate taking the risk of over kinoing.... and opener, in some situations that might work, but if you come on that strong and let her know she has you in her palm it doesnt always turn out great
Author:  BrianNPUA [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:29 pm ]
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Break rapport and escalate. Know how to seduce her.
Author:  V3nu [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:39 pm ]
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i think i just need to take the advice and man up and take the risk, i just hate taking the risk of over kinoing.... and opener, in some situations that might work, but if you come on that strong and let her know she has you in her palm it doesnt always turn out great
Escalate and touch, that's kind of a shitty response, every one says it but it doesn't really work when you are in the friends zone, this is the reason why there are STILL so many threads of how to get out of the friends zone.

If you escalate while you are in friends it's just fucking weird as there is no resonance between your frame and hers frame, it's just weird to escalate/touch for no reason while in the friends zone, in 99.9% of the time the girl will be like "wtf are you doing" or get weirded out.

SO BEFORE THE TOUCHING/ESCALATION PART, you have to establish that you like her and interested in her!

Sinn gave the the best example of this.

And I quote (as closest as I can)
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I LOVE being in the friends zone... why? Because I just hit on her mercilessly, I tell her sure we can be friends but I'm still gonna try to get in your pants! Most of the time the girl will laugh at it, but she will passively take the frame and know that whatever action you take it will be to sleep with her, and 98% she takes the frame, because if you think about it how can your really reject this frame? Is by telling you to fuck off
So my point is, before you start the escalation ESTABLISH THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HER! SHOW INTEREST! ESTABLISH A MALE TO FEMALE INTEREST FRAME! This goes against everything you know, but the trick is to not consistently show the girl interest, but to calibrate it and do it in a specific instant or with a push pull.

Let me know if you like to know more....
Author:  JOHNNYBOY29 [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:44 pm ]
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Ok how about this.

both of you liked each other. she later on LJBFs you - obviously because I/guy hasnt escalated and took his fucking sweet time i.e. a couple of months later

Is it a true LJBF? or just standoffish LJBF? She still aware that you like her etc.

Is that a true LJBF?
Author:  Jav [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:20 pm ]
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Everyone loves to flirt, your mum, your dad, your sis, your brother, your dog.

I think you get it.

It's hella fun.


BUT, it doesn't have to mean ANYTHING.

How do you make it mean something?

Sexual tension, let her know you're more interested in her than just a flirt.
Applying gf frame (threat her like you already fucked her) helps. I mean, where would you touch this girl if you already had sex with her?
And I don't mean immiediatly go for the naughty parts, I mean it'd be more comfortable and natural to touch her WHEREVER.

Have one eye on the goal.

This doesn't mean be outcome dependent, that's a whole different thing.




I bet most of the girls that flirted back were interested in you, but you can only flirt for so long till they think: "eh.... I guess he isn't THAT interested" and LJBF you.


Also, did you just flirt with them to get some kind of ego boost? or were you horny?

Be honest. I think it's the first, stop jacking off and let your penis think for you.

tl;dr:

STEP THE FUCK UP
touch her, sexual tension and get what you want.
Stop jacking off
Author:  Octave [ Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:26 am ]
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Vaj.... i think thats honestly the best response i have heard to any of my subjects... haha
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